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THE BRITISH THREAD II

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2008 07:54 am
Quote:
Pain is a sign that damage is being done.


Professor Germaine Greer.
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Mathos
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2008 03:10 pm
Many a boxer has used this phrase in his training and sparring schedules!


NO PAIN NO GAIN

It helps to get them through the session!!

It's a MAN THING.


One of the earliest attestations of the phrase comes from the poet Robert Herrick in his Hesperides. In the 1650 edition, a two-line poem was added:

NO PAINS, NO GAINS.
If little labour, little are our gains:
Man's fortunes are according to his pains.


A version of the phrase was crafted by Benjamin Franklin in 1733 in his persona of Poor Richard, to illustrate the axiom "God helps those who help themselves":

Industry need not wish, as Poor Richard says,

and he that lives upon hope will die fasting.

There are no gains, without pains...


Germaine Greer indeed .................... A very sad excuse for a lady.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2008 03:38 pm
Interesting, I had no idea she was a lady.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2008 06:06 pm
They say that seekers of pain are kinky.

I incline to that view myself.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2008 06:24 pm
spendius wrote:
They say that seekers of pain are kinky.

I incline to that view myself.


It appears to be a British upper class tradition.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2008 06:39 pm
McTag, I had a dead thread or two about the change in St. Pancras and maybe Walter did too, not sure, as we tend to trade or coincide in interests. I'm very interested in your take on the station.

I'll come back with a link as I suppose it's a diversion, but mainly to remember what I was wondering, back when I first read about it.



Ah, this is it, poor lame and lonely thread. (There might have been another mention, but I'm not searching further.)

http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=105469



I remember what I was wondering. It was about the color of the beams/framework... did you not even notice them (good, they shouldn't be primary), hated them, or
were all jolly re the right blue.


As a side note, Walter and I are putting all our links and questions about architectural design/building or landscape - or mostly have been - into the art forum, as much design is art.

Have been doing so for a few years, and it mostly slides by unnoticed. Just today I'm trying not to be the only one considering the ASLA landarch awards.

My own interest is to get people looking, and commenting, and not thinking the world around us is some kind of present from outer space.
I want to know what you would do differently, given the design problem.
If you don't want that designed, I might not mind, but could you be fairly specific, and not just swearing, vituperative?

From my view, site design has devolved to some large extent by the will of site developers, which is often, if not always, aimed at profit, for lots of understandable reasons, but sometimes decimating to the land and people. Not always, seemingly, but good intentions are often over ridden.

My interest is not so much on the radical ends of that, but in what would actually work for the people who will live in the place, which might not mesh with people there decades later, and, what might work? And, no, I'm not asking for hodgepodge.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 17 Apr, 2008 09:32 am
ossobuco wrote:
McTag, I had a dead thread or two about the change in St. Pancras and maybe Walter did too, not sure, as we tend to trade or coincide in interests. I'm very interested in your take on the station.

I'll come back with a link as I suppose it's a diversion, but mainly to remember what I was wondering, back when I first read about it.



Ah, this is it, poor lame and lonely thread. (There might have been another mention, but I'm not searching further.)

http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=105469



I remember what I was wondering. It was about the color of the beams/framework... did you not even notice them (good, they shouldn't be primary), hated them, or
were all jolly re the right blue.


As a side note, Walter and I are putting all our links and questions about architectural design/building or landscape - or mostly have been - into the art forum, as much design is art.

Have been doing so for a few years, and it mostly slides by unnoticed. Just today I'm trying not to be the only one considering the ASLA landarch awards.

My own interest is to get people looking, and commenting, and not thinking the world around us is some kind of present from outer space.
I want to know what you would do differently, given the design problem.
If you don't want that designed, I might not mind, but could you be fairly specific, and not just swearing, vituperative?

From my view, site design has devolved to some large extent by the will of site developers, which is often, if not always, aimed at profit, for lots of understandable reasons, but sometimes decimating to the land and people. Not always, seemingly, but good intentions are often over ridden.

My interest is not so much on the radical ends of that, but in what would actually work for the people who will live in the place, which might not mesh with people there decades later, and, what might work? And, no, I'm not asking for hodgepodge.


St Pank v v nice. Colours right, sculptures good, fit-out excellent, customer satisfaction high, international train travel up by two million apparently.
What I know about art could be written on the back of a very small stamp, but it looks very impressive to me.

Wifie took some pixx, so if these come out will post them up here.
And there.
Thanks McT x
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 17 Apr, 2008 10:58 am
It's just another of the myriad methods of transferring wealth south Mac.
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 02:08 am
spendius wrote:
It's just another of the myriad methods of transferring wealth south Mac.


So where would you put the main national Eurostar Terminal then, Sowerby Bridge?
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 02:48 am
Under the pile of defunct share certificates.
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 02:56 am
Where would Britain be if there were not a ready supply of eager investors ready to take a punt?
Investments can go down as well as up.
Eurotunnel is now making a profit.
I can't think of any more platitudes for now.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 02:56 am
Such a ray of sunshine our spendy. Where would we be without him?
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 05:37 am
Well, I was an investor and you are all riding round to get your duty frees in order to lessen your contributions to the NHS on something you haven't paid for.

You're entitled to smirk.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 05:41 am
We were promised the central frieght terminal. Big maps in the papers. Power lunch meetings and stuff.

Now St Pancras is all prettied up in tasteful colours. Ask Alex Salmond.
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 06:37 am
McTag wrote:
smorgs wrote:
Checked out the site...

Flying is much cheaper.

Friday then?

x


OK it's a date



Did anyone else see this?

You are my witness.

For those of you trying to keep up, it didn't happen. I had lukewarm fish & chips all by myself, in my lonely garret.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 08:22 am
Let me say I'm very concerned for SM's well-being. For her to have missed an opportunity to luncheon with you, McT, I fear something seriously wrong must have occurred.

Have the authorities been contacted?
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 08:32 am
Sarky git.

But no, I don't understand it either. I was only going to ask her to pay for one.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 10:36 am
Sorry for sending you the "Euro-whiff" ...
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 11:04 am
ok walter what have you been doing?
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 11:05 am
Hey Walter, what about Frau Merkel's bazumbas?
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