THE BRITISH THREAD II

spendius wrote:

It seems to be important to those who want it to be for whatever reason.

I would say that it is not important-yes. My previous post was intended to make the story look ridiculous. Which, of course, it is.

From a stoic's point of view, yes, it's not important.

But from a humanist's point of view, it certainly is...

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Well- I've just had a root around on You Tube and all I could find was Mr Sharpton (?) having a good time in front of about 100 people and some wind ups which seem to be concerned with selling records.

It began in July by the looks of things so it is surprising how it has suddenly become "important". Possibly it is because it provides people with an opportunity to flaunt their non-racist virtues and distract them from the far more serious problems in Africa which is a trick the Grauniad often uses so that it's readers can pose as saints while being as racist as all hell let loose underneath.

All the black people I saw in the photographs look very well fed and the town looked quite pretty with its manicured lawns and new Wal-Mart. I'll bet it has hot and cold running water and a well stocked fridge in every residence. They looked from here to be among the world's most privileged 10%. Maybe 5.

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As a refined rhetorician, you can always put down any other people's view of some situation.

But why, because only some 5% of the humanity is involved, this denial of justice should be unimportant?

And why, because of the media circus involved, there wouldn't be genuinely concerned people?

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Spendy evidently thinks black people in the States should be content, grateful even, if they only have enough to eat.

Some way still to go, then....

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Mac wrote-

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Spendy evidently thinks black people in the States should be content, grateful even, if they only have enough to eat.

That's a gross distortion of what I said and anybody with the slightest intelligence, who you don't seem to have allowed for, can see it. Your statement merely makes you look foolish and somewhat arrogant.

And you must know it Mac.

You just don't want to have to think about Africa. As the Government does. And not Jena. You are probably worried that the more people think about Africa the more risk to your pocket will ensue. So distracting yourself by thinking about Jena, a buying a newspaper incident, where the black people seem to be in very little danger of not being able to have 10 choices of toothpaste, is a convenient form of displacement therapy (putting your head in a bag for short) and forgetting about the millions in the direst poverty the details of which I will pass over as we are on before the watershed.

The Grauniad being, of course, well aware of the facility they are providing for its virtue poseurs some of whom fly over Africa and spray their shite out over those wretched people whose presence in the world ruins our enjoyment of the wonders we have created. (Sick to our stomachs ruined I mean.) And watching videos of the Antique Roadshow as they go. And it requiring more fuel on account of what a bunch of fat slobs they are. (Details on request).

And even after having said that I think everyone should be grateful if they have enough to eat. I was brought up to say Grace before every meal.

I would contend that anybody who says that Jena is of even trivial importance compared to Africa is a bloody racist. And a double-dyed one at that. And that he's using Jena to go around pretending he's God's little gift to the angelic choir at.............

Well that's an interesting competition. Assuming there is a Great Goddess in eternal majesty surrounded by all the good people who have been through this vale of tears in a hierarchy of goodness what would be the equivalent to our Christmas to provide God with the occasion to give Mac to the angelic choir as a present? Surely they will chop eternity up to get some festivities going. Those who have only witnessed 5,000 festivities being veterans and much further from the Throne than the Gurus who are being watched by the Gurus-in-training.

It's stumped me. Had it not I wouldn't be asking for suggestions. I would have just completed the sentence and left it at that.

This is the best I can do for the moment-

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I would contend that anybody who says that Jena is of even trivial importance compared to Africa is a bloody racist. And a double-dyed one at that. And that he's using Jena to go around pretending he's God's little gift to the angelic choir at Midstreamas.

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spendius wrote:

All the black people I saw in the photographs look very well fed and the town looked quite pretty with its manicured lawns and new Wal-Mart. I'll bet it has hot and cold running water and a well stocked fridge in every residence. They looked from here to be among the world's most privileged 10%. Maybe 5.

Spendy, sometimes you are beyond a joke, you twisted ratbag.

You wrote the above. What interpretation am I supposed to put on it, in the given circumstances? This is one you can't wriggle out of. And when in a hole, the usual advice is to stop digging.

Take stock, and apologise.

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Francis wrote-

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As a refined rhetorician, you can always put down any other people's view of some situation.

Not "any other" view Francis. Just those that should be shot down in order that they don't stand on the record unopposed.

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But why, because only some 5% of the humanity is involved, this denial of justice should be unimportant?

I did not say that a denial of justice in Jena is unimportant.

It is simply that we ought to start where justice is denied the most and results in millions of tragedies. I have enough confidence in the American system to feel pretty sure that there won't be any denial of justice in Jena more than what we ordinarily put up with. If you want to talk about denial of justice start where it involves real unremitting agony for all age ranges rather than with some opportunities to get on television and provide media with something to insert between the adverts to tweak up the self-satisfaction of its punters as they have a full English in the conservatory perusing their refined newspaper's travel ads. Jena is a "gig".

I'll bet the local businessmen are having a "dip your bread in" kinda time.

Like they did in Dover Pa.

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Mac wrote-

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Spendy, sometimes you are beyond a joke, you twisted ratbag.

I am content to allow others to adjudicate on that.

I see nothing to apologise for. You will need to explain what you mean. One couldn't go around apologising to remarks of that type. They don't mean anything you see. Except maybe that you're stumped, run out, caught at silly mid-on and hit wicket.

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You wrote the above. What interpretation am I supposed to put on it, in the given circumstances? This is one you can't wriggle out of. And when in a hole, the usual advice is to stop digging.

Try this. Do the events in Jena, which we know will be distorted to suit somebody's book, ruin your enjoyment of the wonders we have created like the scenes from Africa do and which we can easily see are repeated by the million. And do people running around on a virtue buzz over the events in Jena distract our attention from the events in Africa which do ruin that enjoyment.

I'm not in a hole. If I was I wouldn't want to wriggle out and I would try to keep digging up to the limits of my strength.

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spendius wrote:

Mac wrote-

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Spendy, sometimes you are beyond a joke, you twisted ratbag.

I am content to allow others to adjudicate on that.

I see nothing to apologise for. You will need to explain what you mean. One couldn't go around apologising to remarks of that type. They don't mean anything you see. Except maybe that you're stumped, run out, caught at silly mid-on and hit wicket.

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You wrote the above. What interpretation am I supposed to put on it, in the given circumstances? This is one you can't wriggle out of. And when in a hole, the usual advice is to stop digging.

Try this. Do the events in Jena, which we know will be distorted to suit somebody's book, ruin your enjoyment of the wonders we have created like the scenes from Africa do and which we can easily see are repeated by the million. And do people running around on a virtue buzz over the events in Jena distract our attention from the events in Africa which do ruin that enjoyment.

I'm not in a hole. If I was I wouldn't want to wriggle out and I would try to keep digging up to the limits of my strength.

You are a dab hand with the obfuscation and smokescreens. Unfortunately for you though, the posts above show pretty clearly what you meant. It's shameful.

Most people can make their own minds up about the relative merits of news items on a variety of topics, and decide on their relative importance, without your help or tasteless comment about "enjoyment" of human tragedy.

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I'm afraid Mac that my posts have evidently escaped your comprehension.

I specifically said that the sights we see from Africa "ruin" our enjoyment of our luxurious lifestyle. I have heard many people express the view. Which means we ought to do something about them for our own peace of mind. It's a question of priorities. What I saw on You Tube didn't particularly ruin my day and I doubt it ruined anyone else's which does not mean I'm in favour of any injustice that occurs there if any does.

And that the Grauniad distorts what injustice means in the interests of complacency and self approval and takes people's sympathies away from gross injustice.

And that the Grauniad had a whole mass of other stories and this one was picked out for our edification for ego self-flattery purposes.

One kid so far has a black-eye and he was at the dance the same night he got it, doing the boogie-woogie.

The article was entertainment for the no-cost Holier-than Thou-ers. Doing something about Africa is business.

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Hello Britons!
Just thought I'd post and say I'm moving to London tommorow!
Very exited! (and not yet packed.....)

xxx

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Hello Queenie, nice to see you love¬ Hope you enjoy London.

What are you going to be doing there?

I had a good day out on the bike today, it rained for an hour or so, but after that it was quite nice.

SPENDI

Taking all your ridiculous views, comments, acts of despair and insanity into consideration, would you consider yourself summed up in one by the following few words?

I'm all right Jack.

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I can tend in that direction I'll admit but I am able to avoid the full-blown version you have.

I don't suppose you know that Louisiana's offshore oil revenues go mainly up north and that if they didn't there would not be so many poor people in that state and that the sort of things that are associated with the spat in Jena are a symptom of poverty or at least poverty in relation to the comforts where the revenues do go and in those places of liberality and ease, editorial suites and the like, it is a simple matter to look down one's nose and criticise those attitudes and especially attractive when you are the very cause of them.

But you might be better staying with the elementary stuff. The reality is a big bogeyman.

I'm sure the opposition will welcome you to their bosom.

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spendius wrote:

I'm afraid Mac that my posts have evidently escaped your comprehension.

I specifically said that the sights we see from Africa "ruin" our enjoyment of our luxurious lifestyle. I have heard many people express the view. Which means we ought to do something about them for our own peace of mind. It's a question of priorities. What I saw on You Tube didn't particularly ruin my day and I doubt it ruined anyone else's which does not mean I'm in favour of any injustice that occurs there if any does.

And that the Grauniad distorts what injustice means in the interests of complacency and self approval and takes people's sympathies away from gross injustice.

And that the Grauniad had a whole mass of other stories and this one was picked out for our edification for ego self-flattery purposes.

One kid so far has a black-eye and he was at the dance the same night he got it, doing the boogie-woogie.

The article was entertainment for the no-cost Holier-than Thou-ers. Doing something about Africa is business.

More silly tw*ttery.

I was not the one who introduced the discussion about Jena here, now was I. I merely provided the newspaper link, later.

You are attenpting to trivialise the story for reasons best known to yourself. It is however not trivial, although no-one but you is comparing it in importance or anything else to flooding/starvation in Africa.

If you rely on YouTube for your world view though, maybe I should not find any of this surprising.

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spendius wrote:

I'm sure the opposition will welcome you to their bosom.

You could be right with that statement, it's a by product of your inconsistency to reality though sunshine. Then you have to consider the fact that I have enough places throughout the planet to lay my weary head from time to time, the bosom factor is appreciated when accepted along with a the odd teaspoon full of Nestles condensed milk as an additional sweetener.

I suppose viewing the world through the silly pages is a novel manner of existence when the cricket is off the screen on account of adverse weather conditions, no games in progress or the telly being fuc**d up for some reason or another.

Do you think burial to be a better manner of ridding the planet of a corpse as opposed to a bonfire? They reckon it only takes three car tyres to rid the planet of a Burmese corpse. Before you start meandering about name changes again, it's had several name changes since 1945 or so, somehow or another it keeps on reverting back to Burma. Rangoon is presently known as Yangon but we all prefer the Anglicised Nouns as a rule! You know it makes sense! That's a lot more than can be said for some of the idiotic tripe you have been sticking down today, it's bloody crackers to be carrying on like that.
Unless Spendi thinks of a subject we must not discuss anything proposed. Well we got well and truly pissed off with the Salambo scenarios a year or two back and things haven't improved much at all since then.

Have they my little ignorant Yorkshire tyke?

The Yanks are kicking you into touch on the ID threads and all in all I'm considering we might need to arrange a whip round for you in due course.

Your dalliances with the figures are in no way original oink, I mentioned a few weeks ago on this thread, One European or such like coming to a sticky end in the sections of longitude I am familiar with, would merit a front page and CNN coverage at least. Five hundred Asians being blown to kingdom come on the same afternoon, might just get a mention with two or three lines on page thirteen before the Jaguar Advertisement.

So your point of non originality is?

Boring bastard!

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Have you armchair anti-war lot seen what our Big Chief General is headlining the News saying?

That you are undermining the nation's military morale. Which is a bit serious really.

And for no other reason that that you want to join the chorus line of the Virtue Parade. Like with the Jena story.

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Let's forget it eh? It's on the record now who thinks what. That's all I'm bothered about.

Viewers can make their own minds up. The ones who wish to associate themselves with the cost-free pious anti-racialism of the Jena gig are perfectly free to do so.

And the ones who wish to associate themselves with the real anti-racialism of getting every person on earth a decent standard of living are similarly free to do so.

As long as viewers are not confused about such matters is all I'm aiming at. I don't much care for the idea of sanctimonious piety being in the service of selfish interest.

Why can't you accept that you are all a bunch of assholes. Are you scared of not being canonised or something.

I heard that the Bradford and Bingley is offering 6.5%.

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Edit that-

*******s. is what I meant.

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The Pentacle Queen wrote:

Hello Britons!
Just thought I'd post and say I'm moving to London tommorow!
Very exited! (and not yet packed.....)

xxx

Yo, Queenie

I hope it works out fine for you in London, and you have a nice time.

We are off to London tomorrow, en route for holiday in Italy for a week or so. We are going on the train, for a change.

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