Setanta wrote:Whereas i see the force of your arguments, Joe, i consider them ultimately nugatory, unless and until anyone is capable of proving that there is a deity and the he/she/it demands any particular dogmatic adherence to belief and practice from people. Otherwise, it's all about labelling. If the Mormons, or the Jehovah's Witnesses want to call themselves Christians, it is hard to dispute it unless and until you can prove that there is a deity who demands adherence in the belief of the divinity of the putuative Christ. As for the Druze, unless and until someone can demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is a deity who demands adherence to the principles of either the Sunna version of Islam, or the Shi'ah version, i see no good reason to challenge their chosen label.
'Awf ibn Malik reported that the Prophet said: "The Jews split into
seventy-one sects: one will enter Paradise and seventy will enter Hell.
The Christians split into seventy-two sects: seventy-one will enter Hell
and one will enter Paradise. By Him in Whose hand is my soul, my Ummah will split into seventy-three sects: one will enter Paradise and
seventy-two will enter Hell." Someone asked, "O Messenger of Allah, who
will they be?" He replied, "The main body of the Muslims (al-Jama'ah)."
There you have it.