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The other Ten Commandments

 
 
Terry
 
Reply Sat 13 Jan, 2007 04:25 pm
If our legal system is based on the Ten Commandments (as a number of posters have claimed), why don't we have laws about breaking the necks of firstborn donkeys and boiling goats in their mother's milk? Why isn't the Feast of Unleavened Bread a national holiday? Who decided that God didn't really mean it when he gave these 10 to Moses, even though they are specifically called the Ten Commandments? Should we start a movement to get the correct ones posted in courthouses?

God wrote:
Exodus 34
The New Stone Tablets
1 The LORD said to Moses, "Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke. 2 Be ready in the morning, and then come up on Mount Sinai. Present yourself to me there on top of the mountain. 3 No one is to come with you or be seen anywhere on the mountain; not even the flocks and herds may graze in front of the mountain."

4 So Moses chiseled out two stone tablets like the first ones and went up Mount Sinai early in the morning, as the LORD had commanded him; and he carried the two stone tablets in his hands. 5 Then the LORD came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the LORD. 6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, "The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation."

8 Moses bowed to the ground at once and worshiped. 9 "O Lord, if I have found favor in your eyes," he said, "then let the Lord go with us. Although this is a stiff-necked people, forgive our wickedness and our sin, and take us as your inheritance."

10 Then the LORD said: "I am making a covenant with you. Before all your people I will do wonders never before done in any nation in all the world. The people you live among will see how awesome is the work that I, the LORD, will do for you. 11 Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 12 Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land where you are going, or they will be a snare among you. 13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles. 14 Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

15 "Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.

17 "Do not make cast idols.

18 "Celebrate the Feast of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Abib, for in that month you came out of Egypt.

19 "The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
"No one is to appear before me empty-handed.

21 "Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.

22 "Celebrate the Feast of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Feast of Ingathering at the turn of the year. 23 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign LORD, the God of Israel. 24 I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the LORD your God.

25 "Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Feast remain until morning.

26 "Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the LORD your God.
"Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk."

27 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel." 28 Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant?-the Ten Commandments.
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fresco
 
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Reply Sat 13 Jan, 2007 06:59 pm
Terry,

No doubt this will provide endless fun for Holy Joes to quote differential versions in the bible !. I believe, for example, that there are six hundred and thirteen specific commandments in the OT including such gems as "not giving misleading advice" and "not leaving obstacles on public paths" !
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Terry
 
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Reply Sun 14 Jan, 2007 02:32 pm
I especially like the part where God is said to be compassionate, abounding in love, and forgiving sin - but the next sentence says he will punish children for the sins of their grandfathers and great-grandfathers!

I would still like to know why these Ten Commandments are simply ignored by Christians - perhaps they got misleading advice? Admittedly the ones listed in Exodus 20 are catchier, but the Bible specifically says that the ones I posted here ARE the Ten Commandments written by God himself onto the stone tablets of Moses.

What mental gymnastics are required for someone to refuse to acknowledge them while claiming to believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God?
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Raul-7
 
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Reply Sun 14 Jan, 2007 04:42 pm
Terry wrote:
I especially like the part where God is said to be compassionate, abounding in love, and forgiving sin - but the next sentence says he will punish children for the sins of their grandfathers and great-grandfathers!

I would still like to know why these Ten Commandments are simply ignored by Christians - perhaps they got misleading advice? Admittedly the ones listed in Exodus 20 are catchier, but the Bible specifically says that the ones I posted here ARE the Ten Commandments written by God himself onto the stone tablets of Moses.

What mental gymnastics are required for someone to refuse to acknowledge them while claiming to believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God?


Maybe it's the same reason why they ignore most of the sins that are forewarned in the Bible? For example, fornication or eating pork.

It all falls on the false premise that Jesus (PBBUH) died for all their sins. Thus they assume they can keep on sinning and they will all end up in Heaven for hanging a cross around their kneck.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sun 14 Jan, 2007 04:47 pm
Terry wrote:
I especially like the part where God is said to be compassionate, abounding in love, and forgiving sin - but the next sentence says he will punish children for the sins of their grandfathers and great-grandfathers!

I would still like to know why these Ten Commandments are simply ignored by Christians - perhaps they got misleading advice? Admittedly the ones listed in Exodus 20 are catchier, but the Bible specifically says that the ones I posted here ARE the Ten Commandments written by God himself onto the stone tablets of Moses.

What mental gymnastics are required for someone to refuse to acknowledge them while claiming to believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God?



This obviously isn't one of the those parts of the bible that is supposed to be taken literally. It's obvious that this is the case because following THESE commandments would be REALLY HARD and GROSS.

If Christians were told to follow THESE commandments then you'd lose all that TITHING MONEY in the churches because everyone would realize that the religion is FULL OF ****.

So, the reason that they are not followed is because they are not meant to be taken literally.

The reason that it is not to be taken literally is because it would cause a drop in attendence and fellowship.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 07:14 am
maporche

You're saying that if christianity were to abide by ALL god's commandments people wouldn't bother, so they made it easier so that people would subscribe to their religion?

If I had any respect left to lose for christianity, it would be vaporized now. But I don't, and that's why I'm not surprised at this. I thought the devil was the one supposed to bargain for souls.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 09:30 am
Cyracuz wrote:
maporche

You're saying that if christianity were to abide by ALL god's commandments people wouldn't bother, so they made it easier so that people would subscribe to their religion?

If I had any respect left to lose for christianity, it would be vaporized now. But I don't, and that's why I'm not surprised at this. I thought the devil was the one supposed to bargain for souls.


Of course that is what Christianity did. Look at the Jews, they are much more disciplined than Christians are and their numbers are dwindling. There are even sects within Christianity that were tailor made for those 'lazy' Christians. That's why there are 100,000 different groups.

Christians are pathetic.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 11:38 am
I wouldn't say that christians are pathetic. I'd say that christianity is though. Maybe it's just an attempt at diplomacy. :wink:
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