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FOLLOWING THE EUROPEAN UNION

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 02:01 am
Compared to what is served in the UK at what price: French restaurants are cheap.

(Not only because tips are included!)
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Francis
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 02:11 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
...sonsulates in the coutry of origin.


I told the tests guys it was just typos...

L E wrote:
The VAT in French restaurants is a matter of great concern to the whole of the EU, not just France!!.


And the entire univers...
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 02:15 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Compared to what is served in the UK at what price: French restaurants are cheap.


Absolutely disagree, Walter.

Methinks you are thinking of London prices.

My experience in recent years, whilst travelling through France, has been that the quality of food has definitely gone down, and the prices have gone through the roof.
Over here, we think nothing of going out for a very good meal at least once a week. The range of food on offer is vast, is usually cooked and prepared very well and it doesn't make too much of a dent in the wallet.
Every time I go to a restaurant in France, I think "Geeeez" when I look at the menu, and consequently expect a superb work of french cuisine/art to be served up in order to justify my future overdraft.

I am nearly always greatly disappointed.

When we have the frenchies staying at our house during the summer, they always want to go out to eat, as they love the variety of food on offer, and are very impressed with the price.
It's either that, or they don't like my home cooking!

Give me a choice, and I would rather go to a Restaurant in England for a meal, purely for the price, level of service and general atmosphere. The quality of the cooking is just as good, but the range of dishes on offer over here is better, IMO.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 02:28 am
Lord Ellpus wrote:

Methinks you are thinking of London prices.


No, I'm speaking of my experiences I've got regularily outside both Paris and London, made usually twice per year :wink:

What I noticed, however, is that restaurants in French regions, which are haunted by Brittons, have higher prices, offer poor meals and have very unfriendly personal .... when speaking English.

I totally agree about the variety of food - "exotic" menues/restaurants are more often to be found in the UK.
Pub food is excellent as well - and much cheaper than at any other country (they've got larger deep freezers, I think).

I admit furthermore that a normal German can't afford going once a week to a decent restaurant as well - although prices here are lower/the same as in the UK. (And include taxes/service, too)
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 02:28 am
Naked Chef takes on haute cuisine

Jamie Oliver is fast becoming flavour of the month among French foodies - but the "pukka" chef's no-frills style is leaving some Gallic gourmets simmering.
Oliver, honoured with an MBE by the Queen in October, is in Paris promoting his latest book, Rock 'n' Roll Cuisine. His series, The Naked Chef, IS NOW THE MOST POPULAR COOKERY SHOW ON FRENCH TV.

But not everyone across the Channel is shouting: "Lovely jubbly!" and some say this "rosbif" Anglo-Saxon invasion is an audacious affront to French cuisine.

One of the country's most influential food critics, Francois Simon, of Le Figaro newspaper, told BBC News: "In France we are quite upset to see this English boy in our kitchen, 'What he is doing there? Not to cook - that's our job'.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3485057.stm
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 02:33 am
My experience of German restaurants is very good, Walter. Very good value for money, and HEAPS of food.


The Brits are not perfect, but we're getting there rapidly........

Les Rosbifs reinvented

To those who see the French president as out of step with the pace of modern Europe, Jacques Chirac's jibe about British food is perhaps a case in point.

They've got a slick rail network, a home-grown car industry and magnificent stretches of Napoleonic architecture that escaped the German Luftwaffe's mighty payloads.

We, on the other-hand, have half their unemployment, a global language and, for the next six months at least, the EU presidency. Oh, and the 2012 Olympics.

Rivalries between the French and the British are at least as old as Agincourt, the 15th Century battle in which longbowmen under Henry V beat the French forces, despite being outnumbered.

So when the French President Jacques Chirac cheerfully set about disparaging British culinary habits, his remarks stuck in the collective throat like an errant shard of escargot shell.

Perhaps what has enraged the British most about M Chirac's jibe, apart from the hearty laughs it elicited from his immediate audience, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and Russian President Vladimir Putin, is how seemingly unfair it all is.

Twenty years ago, he would have had a point. Ten years ago even, the British culinary cognoscenti might have raised a submissive white napkin in the face of France's vastly superior epicural heritage.

But by common agreement (common, that is, except among the aforementioned statesmen), British cooking has undergone a remarkable reinvention in recent years.

"As far as restaurants go, it's a bit of an old cliché and one that's just not true anymore," says Andy Turvil, editor of the Good Food Guide. The restaurant scene in much of Britain is unrecognisable from two decades ago, he says.

Peter Harden, publisher of Harden's restaurant guides, agrees.

"Most Britons probably eat out in pubs not restaurants," he says. "It used to be true that to go for meal in a pub was a random experience. The steak and kidney pie was just as likely to be watery gravy under a concrete crust."

But that was then...

British restaurants have improved beyond belief, says Mr Harden. Not just at the top end of the market but also in the middling price bracket.

Pukka tucker

The single biggest reason, says Mr Harden, is wealth. The British are better off now and "the first thing people do when they get more money is spend it on food".

Cheap travel has broadened the palate, celebrity chefs have added some glamour to the kitchen and opinion formers no longer herald from the stuffy upper class - an echelon of British society that has never much cared for fine food, says Mr Harden.

It's not just a case of the British patting themselves on the back. In March this year, Conde Nast's Gourmet magazine hailed London as the best place in the world to eat.


M Chirac eats well in the UK
The honour has coincided with a good deal of soul-searching in the corridors of France's haughty catering colleges.

Last year the French government announced the opening of a new cookery university, in what was widely interpreted as a bid to reverse the country's waning international reputation. French chefs are said to have struggled to move on from nouvelle cuisine and fallen behind Spanish, Italian, American and even British rivals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4654137.stm
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 02:36 am
Back to Versailles :wink:

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Merkel Dismisses French Threat in Cordial Meeting With Chirac

http://www.dw-world.de/image/0,,1866861_4,00.jpg
The only time Merkel pointed the finger was at a journalist during the press conference

French and German leaders Jacques Chirac and Angela Merkel met Monday in the historic town of Versailles outside Paris, where discussions focused on the future of the EU and efforts to rein in Iran's nuclear program.

The talks -- part of the so-called Bläsheim process of informal Franco-German summits -- also covered Chirac's reformulation last week of France's nuclear defense policy as well as French hopes, opposed by Germany, to cut value added tax for the restaurant trade.

President Chirac greeted the chancellor early evening at the prefecture -- or governor's office -- in Versailles, which served as headquarters for the German emperor Wilhelm II after the Franco-Prussian war of 1870.

Merkel had earlier inaugurated an exhibition called "Splendors of the Court of Saxony" at the 17th-century palace of Versailles, former residence of French kings.

At a news conference before dinner, Chirac said the two leaders had prepared the ground for two major EU meetings: a ministerial council in March where energy will be the main theme, and the biannual summit in June which will focus on the institutional future of the 25-member bloc.

Sensitive time for Franco-German relations

Monday's bilateral came at a sensitive time for Franco-German relations, with the two governments struggling to reignite their historic sense of purpose at the heart of the EU, commentators said.

French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin and Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy have both been to Berlin in the last two weeks in a bid to boost the partnership.

But with Merkel at the very start of her term in office and Chirac nearing the end of his, "Europe may not get any of the decisions it needs till after the French presidential elections" in spring 2007, said Sylvie Goulard of the Centre for International Research (CERI) in Paris.


Divided on next step for EU constitution

Considerable uncertainty hangs over the fate of the EU constitutional treaty which was rejected in referendums in France and the Netherlands last year but approved by the German parliament and 12 other countries.

Sources close to the Elysee said that while France would be willing to preserve parts of the text and discard others, Merkel's view was that the constitution should not be broken up piecemeal.

Another source of potential discord is France's wish -- enshrined in a Chirac election promise -- to bring down value added tax for the hotel and restaurant trade to 5.5 percent, an idea vigorously opposed by Berlin.

Speaking at the press conference, Chirac conceded that France was unlikely to get its way when the matter is voted on at an EU finance ministers' meeting Tuesday.

Chirac laughs, Merkel dismisses "rift" over nuclear threatSome in Germany also reacted coolly to Chirac's speech on Thursday in which he for the first time raised the threat of targeting French nuclear weapons on rogue states that back terrorism.

He laughed and smiled when a German reporter asked about his comments during the news conference. "There has been no lowering of the nuclear threshold," Chirac said. "No one in Germany should be the least bit worried. Under no circumstances are nuclear weapons battle weapons."

Merkel said she found nothing to criticize in the French position.

DW staff / AFP (nda)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 02:40 am
Interesting and worth to be read opinion by dw-world here about Merkle's foreign politics.

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Although Merkel's strategies of greater friendliness towards Bush, more distance towards Putin and greater sobriety towards France do not constitute fundamental changes in German foreign policy, when it comes to diplomacy it is the tone which counts. And the new Chancellor's tone is distinctly different to that of Gerhard Schröder, and thus far, a tuneful success.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 07:48 am
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No 'formal' evidence of suspected CIA prisons: investigator

Jan 24, 2006, 12:58 GMT

Strasbourg - Europe's top investigator into alleged secret CIA prisons in Europe said in a report Tuesday there was evidence that the United States was 'outsourcing' torture to European countries but there was no 'formal evidence' of the existence of secret CIA prisons on the continent.

'There is a great deal of coherent, convergent evidence pointing to the existence of a system of `relocation' or `outsourcing' of torture,' Council of Europe investigator Dick Marty said in a report presented to the human rights watchdog in Strasbourg.

Marty also said it was 'highly unlikely that European governments, or at least their intelligence services, were unaware' of the US practice.

On the alleged existence of secret CIA prisons in eastern Europe, Marty said however: 'There is no formal, irrefutable evidence of the existence of secret CIA detention centres in Romania, Poland or any other country.'

The Swiss senator was presenting the conclusions of his nearly three months of investigations into media reports of US rendition of prisoners to countries tolerating torture and of the existence of secret CIA detention centres in eastern Europe.

The Swiss investigator stressed that there were numerous indications from several reliable sources which would justify carrying out further investigations into the prison allegations.

Marty also said there was evidence pointing to illegal transport of prisoners in Europe, something which had not been denied by officials. The remark was in apparent reference to the Islamic cleric Abu Omar in Italy and the German national Khaled El Masri.


© 2006 dpa - Deutsche Presse-Agentur
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nimh
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 09:16 am
Some Dutch are getting slightly miffed about what probably serves as a typical example of how the Bush administration assigns its jobs:

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Missing Roland

The Algemeen Dagblad is weighing in on the US ambassador to the Netherlands - or lack thereof. The headline "Is anybody actually missing the US ambassador?" refers to the marathon approval process for the billionaire amdassador-designate, Roland Arnall. President Bush nominated him last summer, and he has run into difficulties during his confirmation hearings because the mortgage company he was running was accused in 13 states of using misleading sales tactics.

The US senate has only recently indicated that they would approve him - but only after the company offered a 325 million dollar settlement for the legal actions against it. However, the article in the AD indicates that the real issue here is that the Netherlands is feeling a bit miffed:

"The position doesn't seem to demand an experienced diplomat", the article says, "rather, it has become a cushy job for friends and campaign contributors of the president."

(From Radio Netherlands)

I find the reaction of the Senate a bit puzzling as welll. They're all - ok, so he scammed lots of people - but as long he reimburses them with enough dough we'll still hire him as ambassador? Wouldnt the question be rather about the, eh, integrity of the guy you're going to put out as ambassador, than whether he paid the scammees off with enough money?
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JustWonders
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 09:23 am
You'd think.
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nimh
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 10:27 am
Talking of scams...

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Corruption trial opens in France
2006/01/24 · BBC News

[My] summary:

Forty-nine businessmen and public housing officials have gone on trial, accused of taking bribes when President Chirac was mayor of Paris, in the 80s and 90s.

Prosecutors claim that the money was used to fund Mr Chirac's party, the RPR. Chirac has denied any wrongdoing and is protected by presidential immunity from standing trial.

The trial follows last year's conviction of three ministers in another major corruption case. They were found guilty of helping to rig public works contracts for the Paris region, from 1989 until 1997.
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nimh
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 11:01 am
In the category intriguing, obscure historical bones of contention:

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Discussion in the Commission for Human Rights - Republic of Macedonia must back the banished Macedonians from Greece

MILS NEWS Skopje January 24, 2006

[My] Summary:

Macedonia ought to back the Macedonians that were banished from Greece during the civil war in 1949, argued experts and representatives of the banished Macedonians during a session of the Parliamentary Commission for Human Rights.

The Greek Constitution from 1975 allows the return of fighters of the Democratic Greek Army, and the return of their estates was later allowed as well, experts said, but this amendment applies only to ethnic Greeks, not Macedonians.

The banished Macedonians criticized past Macedonian and Yugoslav Governments for being silent about the issue, and a former Ambassador to the European Council said that Foreign Ministry officials had often told him "not to raise much dust over the issue".

Now, Foreign Ministry officials said the Ministry will help in collecting documentation for the cases that are before the European Court of Human Rights.

Full text:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/balkanhr/message/8195
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nimh
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2006 03:09 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
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Europe 'ignored detention of prisoners by the CIA'


Here's a follow-up story from The Independent:

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EU countries 'knew about CIA torture flights'

[My] summary:

European governments probably knew that the CIA was flying prisoners across their territory for interrogation and torture in other countries, claimed an interim report from the Council of Europe. It confirms the "rendition" of more than 100 prisoners. But it found no firm evidence of secret CIA prisons in Europe.

The report cites the case of Abu Omar, abducted in Milan. Via military airbases in Italy and Germany, he was flown to Egypt where he was tortured before being released and re-arrested. "The Italian judicial investigation established, beyond all reasonable doubt, that the operation was carried out by the CIA (which has not issued any denials)," said the report.

Moreover, Omar's abduction sabotaged an Italian surveillance operation that was on the verge of uncovering an activist network, "and thereby dealt a blow to anti-terrorist action".


A BBC report on the same includes some particularly harsh words:

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Europe 'knew about' CIA flights

[My] summary:

European governments, or at least their intelligence services, were almost certainly aware of the CIA's secret prisoner flights via European airspace or airports, said Dick Marty, reporting for the Council of Europe.

He said "rendition" - the secret transport of prisoners via Europe to third countries where they may have been tortured - affected over 100 people in recent years, denouncing the practice as "criminal acts" which "run counter to the laws that prevail in all civilised countries today".

He cited the case of Abu Omar, who was abducted by the CIA in Milan, flown to Egypt and tortured. It was just one part of "a great deal of coherent, convergent evidence pointing to the existence of a system of 'outsourcing' of torture".

The kidnapping had also "completely destroyed" an Italian police investigation into Abu Omar and his associates.

Marty also looked into allegations of secret CIA prisons in Romania and Poland, but said there was "no formal, irrefutable evidence".

"Acts of torture or severe violation of detainees' dignity through the administration of inhuman or degrading treatment are carried out outside national territory, and beyond the authority of national intelligence services...

"It is highly unlikely that European governments, or at least their intelligence services, were unaware," the report said.
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JustWonders
 
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Thu 26 Jan, 2006 07:12 am
Dutch MP Defies Muslim Pressure

What turns a devout young Muslim woman into one of Islam's most outspoken critics?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 26 Jan, 2006 10:39 am
JustWonders wrote:


What turns a devout young Muslim woman into one of Islam's most outspoken critics?


We've discussed Ayaan Hirsi Ali a couple of times - not sure, if on this thread as well.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2006 01:22 am
EU opinion on the Hamsa win, summed up in this report by the Independent

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EUROPEAN UNION

European leaders urged Hamas to renounce violence and recognise Israel's right to exist, or risk international isolation and the loss ofaid. The Hamas victory presents acute problems for the EU. The group's military wing is regarded as a terrorist organisation. The Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, pictured, said: "Hamas has to understand that with democracy goes renunciation of violence. It is up to Hamas to choose." The EU member states and the European Commission spend about £340m each year in the region.
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Mapleleaf
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2006 11:42 am
Interesting, there appears to be an opening for some level of change. PBS, last night, reported that some Hamas leaders were looking for academic/tech types to run the government, thus taking Hamas out of the limelight.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 29 Jan, 2006 01:26 am
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Fri 27 Jan 2006

Conference debates Europe's future

The European Union is invoking the legacy of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, whose music has transcended borders, to persuade Europeans to embrace a constitution for the continent's 25-nation bloc.


As Salzburg celebrates the 250th birthday of the city's most famous son - Mozart - Austria opens a two-day conference to rouse new enthusiasm for the EU constitution.

Austria - currently holding the EU presidency - is eager to revive debate about the future of European integration, which was put in doubt last year when French and Dutch voters rejected the draft EU constitution in national referendums.

French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin was due to give the keynote speech to begin the "Sound of Europe" event - two days of debate about the future of European integration between EU leaders and officials as well as artists and intellectuals.

The charter's defeat last year has been linked to fears that the EU's rapid post-Cold War expansion was undermining Western Europe's social welfare benefits.

The draft constitution is designed to raise the European Union's profile on the world stage, balancing both the economic rise of China, India and Brazil and the military superiority of the US.

It must be approved by all member states to take effect, but while 13 countries have ratified it, several have postponed votes on the charter since the French and Dutch said "no".

Across the EU, governments have begun spending millions of euros on commercials, ads and community debates to convince Europeans that closer unity is good for them.

The debate has centred on the role of European values and the benefits delivered by the EU to its 455 million inhabitants.

EU leaders planned to meet again in June to discuss the outcome of the Salzburg event, and to decide how to proceed with the draft constitution.

Source
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 30 Jan, 2006 10:35 am
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30/01/06
Finns hint that European Constitution could be back on table

By Ann Cahill, Europe Correspondent, Salzburg
EUROPE'S Constitution could be back on the agenda later this year.

No formal decision about whether to shelve the treaty is likely to be taken until after elections next year in France and the Netherlands, the two countries that voted No to it.

However, in a surprising move, the Finns have said they would like to put it on the table for the summit of EU leaders in October during their presidency.

Finnish PM Matti Vanhanen discussed the issue with the Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso at the weekend. Mr Vanhanen, who is the only current prime minister who was on the convention that drew up the Constitution, said he does not favour breaking it up. "Cherry-picking is not the solution in my view."




Over the weekend, Austria attempted to break the silence that followed last year's No votes during a three-day conference in Salzburg with the slightly kitsch title of the Sound of Europe, playing on the music the city is famous for.

It coincided with the 250th anniversary of Salzburg's other famous export, Mozart. The three-day debate oscillated between the populism of the Sound of Music and the more classical Mozart.

It was a dramatic break with tradition and a different approach for the EU that is normally tangled up in grimy rows on VAT and tax, money and America. Instead, theatre directors, philosophers, conductors, sociologists, writers and of politicians discussed European culture and identity.

EU foreign relations chief Javier Solana maintained the pessimism is being overdone. However, historian David Cesarani said not just the EU but western civilisation is in crisis, since its basis, the Enlightenment, found its natural conclusion in the camps of Auschwitz.

The handful of politicians invited concentrated on the more mundane issues like getting the Constitution back on the road and making the Union more popular. Though Dutch prime minister Jan Peter Balkenende insisted that culture must not be ignored. "Everything is politics, but politics is not all", he said.

Mr Barroso described the quandary as a catch 22 situation. If the EU produces more wealth and jobs everyone will love it and adopt the Constitution.

However, it's not easy to achieve things without the institutional changes agreed in the Constitution.

For those who wondered why a European Union was needed at all, Javier Solana described the individual countries as political midgets but, working together, they could shape the global agenda from globalisation to foreign affairs.
Source
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