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It's 1938 and Iran is Germany

 
 
cjhsa
 
Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:20 am
Netanyahu: It's 1938 and Iran is Germany; Ahmadinejad is preparing another Holocaust

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/787766.html

By Peter Hirschberg, Haaretz Correspondent

LOS ANGELES - Drawing a direct analogy between Iran and Nazi Germany, Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu asserted Monday that the Iranian nuclear program posed a threat not only to Israel, but to the entire western world. There was "still time," however, to prevent Tehran from acquiring nuclear weapons, he said.

"It's 1938 and Iran is Germany. And Iran is racing to arm itself with atomic bombs," Netanyahu told delegates to the annual United Jewish Communities General Assembly, repeating the line several times, like a chorus, during his address. "Believe him and stop him," the opposition leader said of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. "This is what we must do. Everything else pales before this."

While the Iranian president "denies the Holocaust," Netanyahu said, "he is preparing another Holocaust for the Jewish state."

Speaking on Army Radio on Tuesday, Netanyahu hinted that Israel possesses the military capabilities necessary for curbing by itself the Iranian nuclear threat, declining to specify what these entail.

The Likud chairman said "I don't want to analyze the capability required to eliminate [the Iranian] threat, but this capability exists," when told by host Razi Barkai that Israel lacks the ability to eliminate Tehran's nuclear program by military means.

"This capability is eroded over time, and if we wait years then obviously this capability would not exist anymore ... but right now I disagree with the claim that nothing can be done against Iran," he added.

When asked if Bush could afford embarking on another "military adventure" after Iraq, Netanyahu said acting on the Iranian nuclear program would not be adventurous but necessary.

"... Israel would certainly be the first stop on Iran's tour of destruction, but at the planned production rate of 25 nuclear bombs a year ... [the arsenal] will be directed against 'the big Satan,' the U.S., and the 'moderate Satan,' Europe," Netanyahu said.

"Iran is developing ballistic missiles that would reach America, and now they prepare missiles with an adequate range to cover the whole of Europe," he added.

"No one cared"
Criticizing the international community in his GA speech for not acting more forcefully in trying to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power - "No one cared then and no one seems to care now," he said, again drawing on the Nazi parallel - Netanyahu warned that Tehran's nuclear and missile program "goes way beyond the destruction of Israel - it is directed to achieve world-wide range. It's a global program in the service of a mad ideology."

Large sections of the international community, he said, also misunderstood the nature of radical Islam and its role in the Mideast conflict. "What happens in Iran affects what happens in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, not the other way round," he said.

Netanyahu said he believed that Iran could still be stopped from acquiring nuclear weapons. "There is still time. All ways must be considered. We can't let this thing happen," he said, but did not outline specific measures he thought should be taken.

Referring to Israel's preemptive strike in the 1967 War, he did say that stopping Iran required "preemptive leadership. Preemption requires will and vision."

"Noone will defend the Jews if the Jews don't defend themselves," he said to loud applause. "Iran's nuclear ambitions have to be stopped."
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:23 am
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"Iran is developing ballistic missiles that would reach America, and now they prepare missiles with an adequate range to cover the whole of Europe," he added.


Here we go again...
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:50 am
OMG, Iran is preparing to invade Mars....
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au1929
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 08:20 am
Scoff you may however, the threat is no less real than it was in 1938. When appeasement was the byword with the British PM coming back from Germany spouting "Peace in our time".
I am not espousing an attack of Iran by the US or Israel. However, it is time for the UN to stop it's appeasement of Iran and take some decisive action. Furthermore the nations of Europe to recognize the danger and inparticular France and Russia to stop using their pocketbook as their guide.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 08:27 am
Quote:
(IsraelNN.com) 18 Cheshvan 5767
Some Likud Central Committee members are accusing party leader MK Binyamin Netanyahu of being "out of the loop."

Those members of the governing body stated, about other members, "they need to be awakened. They are living in another world."
source: IsraelNationalNews-newswire
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 08:27 am
Quote:
(IsraelNN.com) 18 Cheshvan 5767
Some Likud Central Committee members are accusing party leader MK Binyamin Netanyahu of being "out of the loop."

Those members of the governing body stated, about other members, "they need to be awakened. They are living in another world."
source: IsraelNationalNews-newswire
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 08:34 am
Eeek, it's Hitler again! Can we Israelis get somebody else to "save" us? What nonsense.

Hysterical metaphors aside, assuming arguendo that some form of intervention is necessary, my question is with what? An exhausted military overextended by two ongoing wars and the need to keep watch on a sabre rattling North Korean madman who may ALREADY possess nukes (and a million man army in case he doesn't)?

If it's really that much of an imminent threat to Israel, then I suggest Israel better take steps to deal with it because, so far, Shrub's attempts at playing world policeman have been a dismal failure.
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 08:37 am
Iran is not 1938 Germany. Anyone that makes that comparison is showing complete ignorance. Germany was an industrial power with access to raw materials. There was no opposing world power in 1938 spending more for military than the next 10 nations combined. There was no real attempt at sanctions nor any way to carry out those sanctions.


Iran could be a threat but for entirely different reasons than Germany was in 1938. It is not going to be invading anyone with much chance of success. It is not going to be able to sustain an ongoing war effort. It's only war effort would be a suicide attack with complete annihilation as the response. That doesn't make it 1938 Germany any more than Iraq was 1938 Germany.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 08:42 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Quote:
(IsraelNN.com) 18 Cheshvan 5767
Some Likud Central Committee members are accusing party leader MK Binyamin Netanyahu of being "out of the loop."

Those members of the governing body stated, about other members, "they need to be awakened. They are living in another world."
source: IsraelNationalNews-newswire
Netanyahu is out of his head if you ask me. As usual he wants America to destroy Israel's enemy for them.
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NickFun
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:07 am
The problem is that the US has shown its weakness in the Iraq war. Iran, and other countries, realize that the US cannot defeat even a small country such as Iraq. This empowers other nations to do as they please.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:19 am
I don't buy that nonsense. What we are fighting in Iraq is a bunch of terrorists and insurgents loyal to no one but jihad.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:27 am
Correction: What we-- the world's only superpower-- are UNABLE TO DEFEAT in Iraq is a bunch of terrorists and insurgents....

The appearance of our impotence in the face of such a challenge certainly gives aid and comfort to those who would wish us no good.
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au1929
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:32 am
The US can win the war. What it can not win is the peace.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:37 am
au1929 wrote:
The US can win the war. What it can not win is the peace.


Three years of conflict and 3000 US casualties without apparent result or end in sight argue differently.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:37 am
I've only just found this. Michael Meacher, a former cabinet member does actaully know what he's talking about.

As we all know, but few are willing to spell out...its all driven by oil.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2006/06/26/ccpers26.xml&menuId=242&sSheet=/money/2006/06/26/ixcoms.html
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:41 am
blacksmithn wrote:
The appearance of our impotence in the face of such a challenge certainly gives aid and comfort to those who would wish us no good.


I take issue with your use of the term "us".
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:46 am
Why? Are you anti-American?
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au1929
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 10:03 am
blacksmithn wrote:
au1929 wrote:
The US can win the war. What it can not win is the peace.


Three years of conflict and 3000 US casualties without apparent result or end in sight argue differently.



That is the point. We won the battle and ran throught the Iraqi forces with little trouble. However, we could not turn that victory into peace.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 10:09 am
blacksmithn wrote:
Correction: What we-- the world's only superpower-- are UNABLE TO DEFEAT in Iraq is a bunch of terrorists and insurgents....

The appearance of our impotence in the face of such a challenge certainly gives aid and comfort to those who would wish us no good.

Absolutely true.

And, of course, the war effort has been so greatly strengthened by the libs and the liberal press stating incessantly that the war is immoral and illegal, that it was started under false pretenses, that the president should be impeached for starting it, that we should get out either immediately or on a known schedule, and that we are losing.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 10:18 am
We should apologize for stating the obvious?
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