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Why Australia immigration is so complicated ?

 
 
dd1
 
Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 01:35 am
Here is my problem..I will be finishing my graduate Dilpoma in Education by the end of November..and was hoping to be able to apply for permanent residency..I am eligible but i am short of 5 points !!! just 5 points !!...what can I do ??
It's so complicated and I have to say that it's stressing me out and I really don't know what to do !! And I have no one to help me Sad
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Nov, 2006 06:15 am
5 points, dd1?
How many points does one need to qualify?
And what of things count as points?
This does sound very frustrating for you.

A thought: have you considered contacting your local member to see if s/he can assist in some way?

I'm not an expert in these things (obviously, from my questions above) but it does sound very frustrating. A few months ago I had to write a stat.dec. to declare that a good friend's relationship with her husband was indeed "legitimate"! (He's Vietnamese & had applied for Australian citizenship). It felt just awful to have to write an "acceptable" account of their relationship: when they'd met, that they were indeed in a genuine relationship, that their relationship had developed over time, etc, etc ... All this personal stuff when they were already married when my friend was living & working in Vietnam. So humiliating for them. My friend said she would almost have preferred it if they'd spied on them to confirm their situation, rather than have to jump through all the hoops that the Immigration dept required.
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dd1
 
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Reply Wed 15 Nov, 2006 11:51 pm
Dear msolga,

Thank you for your feedback, it is very frustrating and stressful...I might have to go to Adelaide...on my own..start everything again...unless i can find a school willing to sponsor me for PR which I cannot find. They offer a temporary visa for 3 year ...conditions : Have to live in Regional area for 2 year and have worked 1 year full time in the same area....

How am I going to do that ? Sad

I will see an Immigration agent this comming monday but I know he will tell me the same...Sad

I hope your vietnamese friends is ok with his citizenship now ?
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 12:57 am
dd1

I'm going to ask my friend (the one married to the Vietnamese immigrant) if she has any ideas of what you might do.

It's a tough position you're in. The best I can suggest, off the top of my head, is to contact an "immigration lawyer" to ask for advice & assistance regarding your situation. I sometimes see advertisements in the newspaper for people seeking assistance with immigration concerns. You could most likely find a few online. How useful they'd be I can't say for certain. But it's worth a go & it may give you a few more clues as to how to proceed.

Good luck! I wish could offer more than this.

Do stay in touch.
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lezzles
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 12:57 am
By all means see the immigration agent. They specialise in immigration matters and will be able to advise you on the best way to go.

I know it seems harsh that the requirements are so stringent, but these have been formulated over many years, and part of the reason is to find people who genuinely want to make their life here. I suppose they consider that putting in 2 years in a regional area is a good indication of your commitment. It used to be that any government training (eg, teachers, etc) required the same commitment.

It is a big open country and I think part of the thinking is that it gives one an opportunity to discover that there is more than just the big cities. It will probably seem hard at first but it is amazing how quickly that time will pass - and you may just get to like it once you have had the chance to meet a few people.

Don't be scared - you've always got us to talk to! :wink:
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 01:18 am
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Have to live in Regional area for 2 year and have worked 1 year full time in the same area....


Whats so hard/wrong about that?
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dd1
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2006 04:14 am
dadpad
Well I have been in Sydney for 4 years now...and it was very difficult for me on my own to settle .... and honestly sociolizing in Australia is really not easy at all when you are new....and living that again is just stressfull...I don't know after 4 years I did not expect that to happen....

Thanks for your reply everyone...tomorrow monday I will see an immigration agent he might help me....I will let you know Smile

Thanks for your encouragment everyone Smile
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 01:17 am
Good luck, dd1!
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dd1
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 03:57 am
Thanks msolga...
I have seen the immigration agent and he was not encouraging at all !!
Apparently even with the SIR visa it's more complicated than what I thought. Apparently If I go in a regional area. I will have to find a job but then the employer will have to sponsor me for PR which I think is really difficult to find Sad
Well anyway don't really know what I am going to be doing or where I am heading now....
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 04:05 am
You mentioned earlier that you were completing your diploma of education, dd1.
You wouldn't consider a teaching job in the country?
If it was in a "hard to staff" school your employer (the state government/Catholic education authority) might well sponsor yor application.
Most of us began our teaching careers in the country. It's not so bad, really!
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dd1
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 04:25 am
msolga if I can find a school I wouldn't worry...I wouldn't mind but I don't know any school that might be willing to sponsor me. Would you know any school able to do that ? I know that public schools can't sponsor only independant Sad
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 04:35 am
You need to get in touch with the independent & Catholic education authorities in NSW, dd1. Have you looked at the online education advertisements? Also there are agencies that you can join that find work for teachers. A good starting point would probably be the classified pages of the Sydney Morning Herald. They probably publish their job advertisements online. I know The Age in Melbourne does.
Agencies often place their advertisements in the jobs section, too.
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dd1
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 04:54 am
Well if you see any in melbourne please let me know I will try to apply where ver I can.

I will look on the SMH but there is not as many.....
Sooooo stressfullllllll Sad
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 05:02 am
The Age (Melbourne) education classifieds:

http://mycareer.com.au/jobs/-/education/

Saturday is the main day to check for new advertisements.

What is your area of expertise? (Qualifications for teaching)
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 05:10 am
Advertised jobs with the Catholic Education office (Melbourne):

http://www.ceo.melb.catholic.edu.au/
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 05:16 am
NSW Department of Education & Train website:

https://www.det.nsw.edu.au/employment/promotion/index.htm
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dd1
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 05:17 am
Thanks for the links msolga
I specialise in french Italian and history

I just wonder how I should approach schools and ask them for a sponsorship ?
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 05:25 am
I know that in the Victorian Education Department they have jobs targeted specifically for graduates. You could contact the Victorian Department of Education & Training & make an enquiry. The same with the NSW education authority & the Catholic ones. You could ask them if you are eligible to apply for positions, given your situation. Specifically, if you apply & are successful, would this favourably affect your visa requirements?
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dd1
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 05:28 am
The DET does not sponsor overseas students I got informed not long ago. Only independant schools...
It will not really help me unless they agree to sponsor me for a PR...which is really not easy....
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 05:28 am
I suspect your best chances would be in "hard to staff" schools, possibly in more remote areas.
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