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Help please! (Smurf Red-Dot Riddle)

 
 
Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2006 08:12 am
Papa Smurf summons all the smurfs, and gets them to stand around in a circle.

* Some of the smurfs have a disease
* Those with it have a red dot on their forehead
* He wants those with it to step forward voluntarily

He asks "Will all those with a dot step forward?"

* Nothing happens
* He asks again, several times
* Suddenly, every diseased smurf steps forward

Assignment

1. How many times did he ask?
2. Why?
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thoh13
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2006 06:48 pm
i may be wrong on this but.... he asked as many times as there are diseased smurfs...

assume one smurf has a dot....he sees that no one else has dots and concludes he must have a dot and steps forward after 1 question.

assume 2 smurfs have dots, A and B. smurf A sees one smurf with a dot, and so does smurf B. smurf B thinks, if A is the only one w/ a dot, he must step forward after 1 question (logic above), but since he didnt, i must also have a dot. they both step forward after 2 questions.

assume 3 smurfs have dots. smurf C must think he has a dot if he sees 2 dots but no one steps forward after 2 questions. all 3 step forward after 3 questions.

and this continues. for n sick smurfs, all step forward after n questions.

does anyone agree w/ my logic? if not may all the sick smurfs be sacrificed to gargamels cat
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mac11
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2006 07:06 pm
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=67948
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mac11
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2006 07:13 pm
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19474
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TheSurgeon
 
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Reply Tue 3 Oct, 2006 04:31 am
Yeah thoh that's basically what I was thinking.

And to the other two who posted links, those two riddles are nothing like my one.
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Chai
 
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Reply Tue 3 Oct, 2006 04:48 am
yeah, I agree with thoh answer, as far as, "as many times as there where sick smurfs", but I thought you wanted an exact #.

I agree those other riddles aren't the same.
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