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Is this anti-semitism?

 
 
Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 03:53 pm
This has been posted on a few forums and sent around via emails.
I think that all those people who start slandering this Rabbi should reflect on the reasons and on anti-semitism and Israels right to exist.







Jewish rabbi calls for extermination of all Palestinian males


IMEMC & Agencies - Monday, 18 September 2006, 14:29

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A Jewish rabbi living in the West Bank has called on the Israeli government to use their troops to kill all Palestinian males more than 13 years old in a bid to end Palestinian presence on this earth.

Extremist rabbi Yousef Falay, who dwells at the Yitzhar settlement on illegally seized Palestinian land in the northern part of the West Bank, wrote an article in a Zionist magazine under the title "Ways of War", in which he called for the killing of all Palestinian males refusing to flee their country, describing his idea as the practical way to ensure the non-existence of the Palestinian race.

"We have to make sure that no Palestinian individual remains under our occupation. If they (Palestinians) escape then it is good; but if anyone of them remains, then he should be exterminated", the fanatic rabbi added in his article.

Falay is not the first to have called for such extreme measures. Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Kach movement, called for "the transfer of Israel's Arab population to Arab (or other) lands." (As it states on the group's website). Followers of Kahane have been connected to a number of murders of Palestinians, particularly in the Hebron area in the southern West Bank. In the most well-known of such attacks, 29 Palestinians praying in the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron were gunned down by Baruch Goldstein, a follower of Kahane, in 1994, with Israeli soldiers looking on and allowing the gunman to reload his automatic machine gun and continue killing innocent civilians. In response to that massacre, the Israeli authorities punished the Palestinian victims by taking over the Ibrahimi mosque and turning half of it into a synagogue, where Israeli settlers go to pray each week. And each year, on the anniversary of the massacre, Israeli settlers in Hebron dress up like Baruch Goldstein and parade through the streets of Hebron, firing guns in the air.

The Kach movement recognizes the 'transfer' of 750,000 Palestinians that took place in 1948 in order for the state of Israel to be created on their land, but argues on their website that this 'transfer' was incomplete, and that all Palestinians must be sent away, or killed, in order for Israel to remain a 'Jewish state'. Their platform reads, "In a genuinely 'JEWISH State', how can an Arab be an equal when that State has an Independence Day celebrating his defeat. Its flag isn't that of its people. He isn't trusted to serve in the army. His cousin born in Haifa [sic] and fled during the 1948 War of Independence cannot return... yet any Jew who never lived there before is welcomed with open arms. In short, Israel is his enemy's country, not his. So how can an Arab truly be a loyal citizen in a Jewish State? Simply, they cannot, and they must go!"

The idea of extermination of Palestinians, or their 'transfer' into other countries, is not only a view held by extremists on the fringes of society. Prominent Israeli politicians have also made calls for a 'transfer', or ethnic cleansing, based on race. Just last week, on September 11, 2006, an Israeli member of Parliament called explicitly for the transfer of Palestinians (whow he referred to as 'Arabs') from the West Bank (which he referred to as 'Judea and Samaria', the biblical name for the region where the majority of Palestinians now live).

"We have to expel most Arabs from Judea and Samaria," Eitam said at a memorial service for Lt. Amihai Merhavia, a soldier who was killed in South Lebanon in July. "We can't deal with all these Arabs, and we can't give up the territory, because we've already seen what they do there. Some of them might have to stay under certain conditions, but most of them will have to go." Despite a law that would strip Israeli parliament members of their immunity to prosecution if they are found make explicitly racist statements, no investigation of Eitam has occurred on this matter, and there was no condemnation of his statement by the Israeli government.


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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 04:40 pm
As Arabs (including Palestinians) and Jews are both Semites by definition, then, yes, this is all very anti-Semitic.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Thu 21 Sep, 2006 12:36 pm
Merry Andrew wrote:
As Arabs (including Palestinians) and Jews are both Semites by definition, then, yes, this is all very anti-Semitic.


Why is it ok for people to spread such lies about Israelis??
The Iranians are the real threat.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 21 Sep, 2006 09:21 pm
This could give rise to a Palestinian Jesus or Moses after all all Hebrew male childs were to be killed at birth in both Moses' and Jesus' legends.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2006 05:56 pm
talk72000 wrote:
This could give rise to a Palestinian Jesus or Moses after all all Hebrew male childs were to be killed at birth in both Moses' and Jesus' legends.


Would this Moses type figure say, 'Pharoah wont you let my people go?'
Are you saying israel is oppressive and abuses human rights?
That makes you anti-semitic
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2006 07:52 pm
All it shows is that idiocy knows no ideology. Well, that's not quite all it shows - it illustrates beautifully that fundamentalist religion is the root of the most despicable of the irrational prejudices with which humankind is all too capable of saddling itself.
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Americanadian
 
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Reply Sat 30 Sep, 2006 10:08 pm
danny_boy wrote:
talk72000 wrote:
This could give rise to a Palestinian Jesus or Moses after all all Hebrew male childs were to be killed at birth in both Moses' and Jesus' legends.


Would this Moses type figure say, 'Pharoah wont you let my people go?'
Are you saying israel is oppressive and abuses human rights?
That makes you anti-semitic


"anti-Semitic" blah..blah...blah...

I have read a few threads tonight and posters are carrying on a conversation, and then we have Danniebum, the Zionist rodent poking his head out of the loo to spout "anti-Semitic" here and there, a little everywhere. Smearing someone with that line of rhetoric only displays your ineptitude and inability to debunk what they are stating.

Here is a tidbit for you to enjoy dannie boy. Are you a Zionist? or a true Torah Jew? If you're a Zionist, you'd better skitter back to your septic pipe dwelling.

Quote:

True Torah Jews monitor news events to assess the threat of Zionism to the worldwide Jewish community.

Using a system similar to the US Terrorism alert, we will keep you posted of our assessment of the Zionism threat level based on current events.

Naturally, some areas of the world, such as the so-called "state of Israel" are in greater danger than most, but our assessment is for the entire world Jewish community.

Far from being the saviors of the Jewish People, the Zionists are the true self-hating Jews who have had nothing but contempt and outright hatred for the Jewish People and Judaism. Anti-Semitism has been the oxygen and lifeblood of the Zionists throughout the ages to the present day.

By contrast, we anti-Zionist Jews having been doing all we can to reduce hatred of Jews by proclaiming the true nature of the Jewish religion in contrast to the heresy and idolatry of Zionism. We hope this will help Jews awaken from the brainwashing of the Zionists.

www.jewsagainstzionism.com


Or how about this one Danniebum?

Quote:

A MESSAGE FROM TRUE TORAH JEWS:

THE STATE OF ISRAEL HAS DECLARED ALL-OUT WAR ON THE JEWISH PEOPLE WORLDWIDE


Ariel Sharon, the Prime Minister of Israel told the crowd at a Rome hotel. "We are witness to a great wave of anti-Semitism, and apart from the usual anti-Semitism against Jews, there is today the added hate of the collective Jew, which is Israel."… "The best solution to anti-Semitism is immigration to Israel. It is the only place on Earth where Jews can live as Jews," he said. (BBC website of Monday, 17 November, 2003 (http:/ /news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3275979.stm)

Mr. Sharon has moved from the planning stages as stated in November, 2003, to the execution of the plan which has been in development since the days of Herzl, the founder of the Zionist movement, who stated in his diary "It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends". (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)

In executing this plan they have successfully escalated anti-Semitism throughout the world.

There is great pain that the press and politicians are calling the actions of the Zionist movement "Jewish actions." With these words they are helping the Zionists to fulfill their dreams.

We call upon the world again to understand that the state of "Israel" does not represent the Jewish faith and traditions and that Zionists are the greatest enemies to the Jewish people.

We appeal to people of good will in the media itself to open their minds and hearts to what we are proclaiming about the truth of Judaism, which has been distorted by the Zionists.

The promises of the Torah are always to be realized. This verse from the Torah demonstrates that those who are his enemies will pay a price when The kingdom of G-D will prevail.

Deuteronomy 32:43: Praise his People, O Nations: For he will avenge the blood of his servants. He will render vengeance against his adversaries and make expiation for his land and his People.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 06:39 am
Americanadian wrote:
danny_boy wrote:
talk72000 wrote:
This could give rise to a Palestinian Jesus or Moses after all all Hebrew male childs were to be killed at birth in both Moses' and Jesus' legends.


Would this Moses type figure say, 'Pharoah wont you let my people go?'
Are you saying israel is oppressive and abuses human rights?
That makes you anti-semitic


"anti-Semitic" blah..blah...blah...

I have read a few threads tonight and posters are carrying on a conversation, and then we have Danniebum, the Zionist rodent poking his head out of the loo to spout "anti-Semitic" here and there, a little everywhere. Smearing someone with that line of rhetoric only displays your ineptitude and inability to debunk what they are stating.

Here is a tidbit for you to enjoy dannie boy. Are you a Zionist? or a true Torah Jew? If you're a Zionist, you'd better skitter back to your septic pipe dwelling.

Quote:

True Torah Jews monitor news events to assess the threat of Zionism to the worldwide Jewish community.

Using a system similar to the US Terrorism alert, we will keep you posted of our assessment of the Zionism threat level based on current events.

Naturally, some areas of the world, such as the so-called "state of Israel" are in greater danger than most, but our assessment is for the entire world Jewish community.

Far from being the saviors of the Jewish People, the Zionists are the true self-hating Jews who have had nothing but contempt and outright hatred for the Jewish People and Judaism. Anti-Semitism has been the oxygen and lifeblood of the Zionists throughout the ages to the present day.

By contrast, we anti-Zionist Jews having been doing all we can to reduce hatred of Jews by proclaiming the true nature of the Jewish religion in contrast to the heresy and idolatry of Zionism. We hope this will help Jews awaken from the brainwashing of the Zionists.

www.jewsagainstzionism.com


Or how about this one Danniebum?

Quote:

A MESSAGE FROM TRUE TORAH JEWS:

THE STATE OF ISRAEL HAS DECLARED ALL-OUT WAR ON THE JEWISH PEOPLE WORLDWIDE


Ariel Sharon, the Prime Minister of Israel told the crowd at a Rome hotel. "We are witness to a great wave of anti-Semitism, and apart from the usual anti-Semitism against Jews, there is today the added hate of the collective Jew, which is Israel."… "The best solution to anti-Semitism is immigration to Israel. It is the only place on Earth where Jews can live as Jews," he said. (BBC website of Monday, 17 November, 2003 (http:/ /news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3275979.stm)

Mr. Sharon has moved from the planning stages as stated in November, 2003, to the execution of the plan which has been in development since the days of Herzl, the founder of the Zionist movement, who stated in his diary "It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends". (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)

In executing this plan they have successfully escalated anti-Semitism throughout the world.

There is great pain that the press and politicians are calling the actions of the Zionist movement "Jewish actions." With these words they are helping the Zionists to fulfill their dreams.

We call upon the world again to understand that the state of "Israel" does not represent the Jewish faith and traditions and that Zionists are the greatest enemies to the Jewish people.

We appeal to people of good will in the media itself to open their minds and hearts to what we are proclaiming about the truth of Judaism, which has been distorted by the Zionists.

The promises of the Torah are always to be realized. This verse from the Torah demonstrates that those who are his enemies will pay a price when The kingdom of G-D will prevail.

Deuteronomy 32:43: Praise his People, O Nations: For he will avenge the blood of his servants. He will render vengeance against his adversaries and make expiation for his land and his People.


Now, THAT's an example of true anti-Semitism!
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Americanadian
 
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Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 12:57 pm
Merry Andrew wrote:


Now, THAT's an example of true anti-Semitism!


Yeah...the Zionists cannot exist without it.

What is truly baffling is how they crown themselves representatives of the Jews, but yet, they use it all as a front while undermining the Jews behind the scenes.

True Torah Jews will never accept Zionism as it conflicts with the Torah. People need recognize Israel/Zionism for what it is, and how they do not embody all Jews.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2006 09:26 pm
Merry Andrew wrote:
As Arabs (including Palestinians) and Jews are both Semites by definition, then, yes, this is all very anti-Semitic.


This has become a popular but brainless assertion here on A2K.

Yes, both Arabs and Israelis are considered Semites, by the definition of "Semite"

However the universally accepted definition of "Anti-Semite" is one who hates Jews. It does not include hating Arabs. Perhaps it should, but it doesn't.

Introducing the definition of "Semite" into a discussion on "Anti-semitism," is pointless.

Why so many think something so irrelvant is so clever is beyond me.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2006 05:03 am
I gather that quite a number of things are beyond you, Finn.
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Americanadian
 
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Reply Sun 15 Oct, 2006 02:09 pm
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Merry Andrew wrote:
As Arabs (including Palestinians) and Jews are both Semites by definition, then, yes, this is all very anti-Semitic.


This has become a popular but brainless assertion here on A2K.

Yes, both Arabs and Israelis are considered Semites, by the definition of "Semite"

However the universally accepted definition of "Anti-Semite" is one who hates Jews. It does not include hating Arabs. Perhaps it should, but it doesn't.

Introducing the definition of "Semite" into a discussion on "Anti-semitism," is pointless.

Why so many think something so irrelvant is so clever is beyond me.


Maybe so...but at the same time, to criticize Israel is not anti-Semitic, as they are not descended from the true Biblical Jews in the Scriptures. 90% are descended from the Khazar tribe which migrated to Eastern Europe, after they were driven from Mongolia. They would like to have everyone believe they are Jews. That is their deception. The true Torah Jews are not treated very well in Israel, as they are anti-Zionist. Many refuse to go there for that very reason.

Why people cannot grasp that fact is beyond comprehension.
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stevewonder
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 02:01 pm
Israel has ensure it has a monoploy on the term semitic, arabs are semites also, but it seem they are not to be afforded any humanity.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 23 Oct, 2006 05:39 am
timberlandko wrote:
All it shows is that idiocy knows no ideology. Well, that's not quite all it shows - it illustrates beautifully that fundamentalist religion is the root of the most despicable of the irrational prejudices with which humankind is all too capable of saddling itself.



That says it all, Timber!
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