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Determinism

 
 
Reply Thu 24 Aug, 2006 12:23 pm
Has the outcome of every chain of events already been set in motion by causes (or a single cause) in the past?

Are we able to effect change?
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Thu 24 Aug, 2006 06:49 pm
No.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 24 Aug, 2006 06:55 pm
Maybe.
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real life
 
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Reply Thu 24 Aug, 2006 07:16 pm
Okay smarties.

Which question are you answering 'No' and 'Maybe' to?

My answers are No and Yes, in that order.

Closed ended questions make boring threads, Neo. Maybe you can spice it up.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Thu 24 Aug, 2006 09:33 pm
This question will remain, for the indefinite and probably infinite future, a philosophical one (rather than a scientific one). Therefore, gustav's humble response really is most wise.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 25 Aug, 2006 01:04 am
stuh505 wrote:
This question will remain, for the indefinite and probably infinite future, a philosophical one (rather than a scientific one). Therefore, gustav's humble response really is most wise.
I posted here in an attempt to get an empirical approach, if there is one.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Fri 25 Aug, 2006 05:55 am
neologist wrote:
stuh505 wrote:
This question will remain, for the indefinite and probably infinite future, a philosophical one (rather than a scientific one). Therefore, gustav's humble response really is most wise.
I posted here in an attempt to get an empirical approach, if there is one.


See my comment on this topic in the philosophy forum
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 25 Aug, 2006 07:29 am
The answer would seem to be that the future is not set. Before modern physics was discovered, the model was a huge billiard game, in which all outcomes could be predicted in principle, from a sufficiently accurate knowledge of the current state of the table (and balls). Since the discovery of quantum mechanics, wherein it is learned that outcomes are determined only probabilistically, science no longer supports the idea of determinism.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 25 Aug, 2006 09:21 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
The answer would seem to be that the future is not set. Before modern physics was discovered, the model was a huge billiard game, in which all outcomes could be predicted in principle, from a sufficiently accurate knowledge of the current state of the table (and balls). Since the discovery of quantum mechanics, wherein it is learned that outcomes are determined only probabilistically, science no longer supports the idea of determinism.
Thanks, Brandon. Could you provide a link to an abstract of that idea?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 25 Aug, 2006 09:39 am
neologist wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
The answer would seem to be that the future is not set. Before modern physics was discovered, the model was a huge billiard game, in which all outcomes could be predicted in principle, from a sufficiently accurate knowledge of the current state of the table (and balls). Since the discovery of quantum mechanics, wherein it is learned that outcomes are determined only probabilistically, science no longer supports the idea of determinism.
Thanks, Brandon. Could you provide a link to an abstract of that idea?

Wikipedia
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 25 Aug, 2006 09:42 am
http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/homer.gif Doh.

Thanks.
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