0
   

Real Hair Extensions - Don't Wear Them

 
 
mandarin
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 03:22 am
i haven't read all of the comments on this thread, but i think that although i don't understand why some women waste their money on hair extensions, the people selling it need the money and for them it is a way to use it for profit. Until the government finds a fitting way to aid these people, they will probably go to all lengths to come across some money.
0 Replies
 
msolga
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 03:33 am
mandarin

I'd suspect that those needy women don't get the best of the deal in this situation. I suspect it's the middle men (those who supply the hair to western markets & those who actually sell to the buyers in the west) who make the greatest profits. That's the way these things usually work.
0 Replies
 
Tino
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 03:41 am
Miller wrote:

What if it had been illegal for the poor women to sell their hair.
Would they have starved to death?


You must realise that these women at the wrong end of the beauty market probably don't even recieve a penny.

Stop defending the indefensible with cliches...
0 Replies
 
Bella Dea
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 06:35 am
Tino wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
smorgs, do you eat meat? Chicken, turkey, pork, beef or lamb?


What has this got to do with the subject?

Isn't it just a rallying cry to the "troops": Here's a non-conformist, let's gang up on her?

Well...


No, it has to do with ethical/moral dilemma in the US.

Meat is processed in a horrifying and gruesome way. Anyone who eats meat and doesn't buy humanely raised meats, is contributing to a practice that tortures animals.

I was just wondering if she was aware of it. There was no malicious intent. Simply an opportunity to make someone aware of a process they may not be previously aware of. She sounds like an ethically minded person. I thought she might want to know.
0 Replies
 
Miller
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 06:39 am
Quote:
What if it had been illegal for the poor women to sell their hair.
Would they have starved to death?


Is selling your hair to feed your family as wrong as prostitution?
0 Replies
 
Bella Dea
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 06:40 am
And if smorgs is not interested in learning about it or is a vegetarian, so be it.

Smorgs has been here long enough to hold her own. SHe knows no one is "ganging up on her". At least I'd hope she'd know that.
0 Replies
 
Miller
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 06:46 am
To each, his/her own.
0 Replies
 
Dorothy Parker
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 07:21 am
I have just read all through all the posts and I would like to thank those who have been willing to think about this subject a little more deeply (especially Smorgs for researching it so thoroughly) I was unaware of many of the things that have written about.

This has only strengthened my opinion on what I always suspected was a shady and questionable industry.

x
0 Replies
 
shewolfnm
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 07:44 am
Tino wrote:

Please,,, we need our members and this sort of "Don't agree with you so I'm only come out with the cliches" response makes it difficult for the non-conformist to fit in!


( not speaking directly of THIS topic but...........)

Head butting and opposing arguements is one of the best things about a2k.

I think MORE people should disagree, and stop worrying about what thier opinion would make someone else think.. and start throwing out some information like Smorgs did.

That is one of the things I LOVE about this site. Smile



On this thread-

I think I am missing something... but Smorgs is upset ?
That is odd. She is one of the greatest 'personalities' on here.
Love her .
And , from what I just saw, I love her ability to research. Quick, simple and to the point.

She is a rockin woman with a great head on her shoulders.
Im hoping she wont walk away from a2k..
0 Replies
 
smorgs
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 09:08 am
Smorgs... walk away from an argument... NEVER!

I may sashay away for a while, take a short break, put even more mascara on, dance to Twist and Shout, make bollocknasey sauce for dinner (quorn and beef, as I cater for both and have done for many years).

But I am pissed off and annoyed... but then I have been many times, here on A2K, I have also cried (at ppls posts and the loss of a particular dear member) laughed my head off, many, many times, I once burst out laughing and sprayed tea all over the keyboard. I have many, what I consider to be, genuine friends on this site, as this thread will attest, and I thank them (you know who you are). I have taxed ppls lines, jokes, witticisms, opinions. Thats why I'm here - aren't we all?

I would just like to say to Bella: of course I know about the treatment of animals, intensive food production, use of anti-biotics in animal husbandry...why wouldn't I, I am a typical middle aged British woman, feeding a family... we all do. I know that I am possibly making a contentious and inflammatory statement here; but I believe the average European woman is much better informed than her American counterpart on such issues, for all sorts of reasons.

I have to go and do some domestics now. I'll be back though... cos I ain't finished with y'all yet.

Till then, I leave you with the words of Arthur Lee R.I.P.

"I think that people are the greatest thing"

Sarah
x
0 Replies
 
Bella Dea
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 09:12 am
smorgs wrote:

I know that I am possibly making a contentious and inflammatory statement here; but I believe the average European woman is much better informed than her American counterpart on such issues, for all sorts of reasons.

Ix


Why would you say that?

Perhaps it is done differently in the UK (I fogot you were a UK'er)...but why would you be more informed than I? What is different in the way meat is marketed in your country?

Here, we have a law that says you can't do mean things to salughter animals, but no one enforces it. Do you have a similar law, and if so, do you believe that it is being carried out?
0 Replies
 
smorgs
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 11:26 am
Bella,

Not you... you have made it clear that you have a particular sensibility around the rearing, treatment and slaughtering of animals - and I am sensitive to it.

I do, however, think that the 'average' Birish woman is more informed than the 'average' American woman, as I've said for various reasons and I do not include ignorance in those reasons.

It's hard to articulate, but it has to do with the way information about such issues is in the public arena, it's the way people who hold convictions such as yours demonstrate more freely, their feelings and views about this. We are a smaller country, we are much closer (geographically) to the actual animals and therefore to their care, it's much more 'visible' than in the USA, we have a history of altruistic animal welfare groups, including those that enjoy royal patronage, and activism, it's the way the press is, it's the way we are about vegetarianism, it's the way we shop... Animal welfare is in the public arena in the UK, don't forget we have BSE, Foot and Mouth Disease, salmonella in eggs and chickens and the recent change in the law regarding blood sports. All these have been very high profile issues and your 'average' person will know about these issues.

I chose to be a carnivore, because I like to eat meat. This does not mean that I don't care about the issues around their care and slaughter - because I do.

I also have no doubt that the laws that are meant to protect animal welfare are being flouted everyday, in both my country and yours...
0 Replies
 
shewolfnm
 
  1  
Reply Fri 11 Aug, 2006 04:53 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
smorgs wrote:

I know that I am possibly making a contentious and inflammatory statement here; but I believe the average European woman is much better informed than her American counterpart on such issues, for all sorts of reasons.

Ix


Why would you say that?



I would agree with her statement because the american beef industry ( i think) is one of the biggest offenders when it comes to adding **** to our meat. Drugs, incorrect diets for the animals, inhumane living quarters.. etc.

If you are out from under the american beef industries' umbrella, you can probally see clearer the 'fowls' we in america are served....
0 Replies
 
Tino
 
  1  
Reply Sat 12 Aug, 2006 06:04 pm
Glad to see you back, Sarah!

I know you can defend yourself!

Laughing
0 Replies
 
Miller
 
  1  
Reply Sat 12 Aug, 2006 08:29 pm
If you don't want to eat meat, than don't!

If you don't want to wear hair extensions or wigs, than don't!

But for God's sake, let those of us who want to eat meat and
wear hair extensions or wigs, do so. Let liberty rule.
0 Replies
 
smorgs
 
  1  
Reply Sat 12 Aug, 2006 08:38 pm
Wasn't aware anyone was stopping you, miller?
0 Replies
 
Casino Joe
 
  1  
Reply Sun 13 Aug, 2006 04:10 am
Miller, I'm sorry but you I don't think that you have posted anything worth reading on this whole thread, which is quite disappointing as I just read your experiments on prisoners thread in which I was surprised by your sympathetic comment after only previously reading your views on this thread, so I know you can do better than this.

If the subject doesn't interest you or only makes you want to post these kinds of negative, dampening comments then why don't you post on something else that does interest you, as you have proved so well that you can.

Just a thought...
0 Replies
 
smorgs
 
  1  
Reply Sun 13 Aug, 2006 04:23 am
Miller wrote:

Quote:
Let liberty rule


Yes, let it...

Always makes me snicker when Americans go on about liberty, like they own the word.

Isn't liberty just another word for state sanctioned murder, torture, prisoners held without trial (a basic liberty) and a government that allows it's own people to carry guns?

Not that my own country/government is that much better... but we don't shout 'liberty' when people disagree, we practice it.
0 Replies
 
Casino Joe
 
  1  
Reply Sun 13 Aug, 2006 05:02 am
Oh no, this isn't turning into a US-bashing thread is it? Shocked

I fear we will be outnumbered Smorgs... Laughing
0 Replies
 
shewolfnm
 
  1  
Reply Sun 13 Aug, 2006 06:21 am
smorgs wrote:

Yes, let it...

Always makes me snicker when Americans go on about liberty, like they own the word.

Isn't liberty just another word for state sanctioned murder, torture, prisoners held without trial (a basic liberty) and a government that allows it's own people to carry guns?.



( im writting in humor and sarcasim here.. )

In america, liberty means that we are not given the full truth, instead we are free to read through the touched up lies that are considered news stories and free to vote from there who should be in office. Are we are free to ignore them after words
We are free to run around our homes, while the government watches everything we do with out us knowing. Even cameras on highways watch us. But we are free to ignore that too.
We are free to buy what ever food product we want, as there is an over abundance of genetically altered, low vitamin and nutrient content, pesticide ridden veggies , meats and breads.. We are free to learn about what those pesticides do to our bodies, and draw the conclusion that it is what is giving our country so many diseases and over weight people..
BUT we are free to ignore that too..

hehe

im feelin pissy this mornin , can ya tell? Laughing
0 Replies
 
 

 
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.02 seconds on 05/17/2024 at 01:24:53