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The Past Meets the Future

 
 
coberst
 
Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 04:58 am
The Past Meets the Future

Recently David Brooks wrote for the New York Times an article labeled "The Past Meets the Future".

This was an imaginary conversation between Mr. Past and Mr. Future.

Mr. Past focused upon our failure to understand the past and in so doing we make egregious errors such as the Iraq War. He admonishes us not to take insane attempts to solve historical problems when such matters must heal themselves slowly in the course of time. He admonishes us to seek the happy mean, as Aristotle would say. He suggests that we just try to get by today and maintain some decent order that one thing will lead to another and we will all get by.

Mr. Future reminds of the Exodus story and how this story indicates what a people can accomplish if they never give up. Generational journeys are possible and they can account for revolutionary changes. The ?'Exodus frame of mind' gives us the power to ?'move mountains'. Examples are M.L. King, Gandhi, and Moses in the Promised Land.

"Tocqueville gets at this when he writes that freedom "is ordinarily born in the midst of storms, it is established painfully among civil discords, and only when it is old can one know the benefits." The adolescence of freedom is painful, but what is the alternative?"

I think that we are in a period that might be called a "fork in the road". If we do not find a better path into the future there very well may not be a future for humanity.

I think we have the capacity, i.e. brain power, but we lack the character and will to do the things that will lead to a revolutionary adjustment. This is, I think, a time when young people either get off their ?'intellectual couch' ditch their intellectual ?'Twinkies and chips' and get an intellectual life or their children my not have an opportunity.

I say that an ?'intellectual life' is necessary but not sufficient for their future. I say that the day when the ?'happy mean' is sufficient is dead and gone.

Hey, wake up, do you agree?
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selfruled
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 12:38 am
Have you noticed how you've sadly turned into your father?
In a way.

I say however that what you're expressing with such an emotionally charged determination has been felt without a doubt by every generation. I'm 35 and I'm still able to hear my father preaching about the "correct" way to live; the reason I'm still able to hear my father's words is because I'm using exactly the same pitch when I talk to my own children now. You see, every generation suspects that everything dear to them is being replaced by some monstrous, foreign culture and set of values... they're usually right. Do you feel your descendants should in any way cling to the old ways? why? because it's your way?

Someone once told me that one should pay special atention to the music one listens to during adolescence, "for that's the music one will be listening to for the rest of our lives". when I'm driving by myself; usually the only time I'm "allowed" to listen to my own music, I usually remember this and laugh out loud like a moronic hyena.

Nothing beats Bon Jovi... :wink:
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coberst
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 06:51 am
selfruled

My complaint is not a generational one. My generation and my children's generation are beyond reaching; my message is directed at the new generation because I think that one must get on the right track somewhere in the twenties or they won't make it. All generations past are not a good role model. I am speaking of a revolution in thinking and learning.
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selfruled
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 10:03 pm
Interesting response my friend.

Would you mind discussing your concept of "right track"? Don't get me wrong please; my first words in your thread were "in a way", which means there's plenty here I share with you; I'm just a bit concerned about good intentions turning into a "my way is the way" kind of situation...
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coberst
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 04:00 am
Selfruled

I think that the standard track taken by past generations is that at the end of schooling we pack our yearbook and intellect into a trunk in the attic. In doing so our intellectual curiosity dries up and blows away for lack of activity.

The right track is to engage our intellect continually and perhaps sparingly during the twenty years following schooling. I say sparingly because we have many heavy responsibilities of family and career that comes first during this twenty year period. However we all have time for what is important and ?'keeping curiosity alive' during this period is essential.

If we reach mid-life with an intact curiosity we can focus more time upon being a responsible citizen. A responsible citizen in a liberal democracy has an intellect actively engaged in becoming an intellectual. If we are an intellectual we will be prepared to actively guide our national public policy.

I am a retired engineer with some formal education and twenty five years of self-learning. I began the self-learning experience while in my mid-forties. I had no goal in mind; I was just following my intellectual curiosity in whatever direction it led me. This hobby, self-learning, has become very important to me. I have bounced around from one hobby to another but have always been enticed back by the excitement I have discovered in this learning process. I label myself as a September Scholar because I began the process at mid-life and because my quest is disinterested knowledge.

I would like to suggest that the reader consider the desirability of developing self-learning as a hobby. One might think of this as a 'second wind'. Like the marathoner developing a new source of energy and excitement at mid-race the self-learner undertakes a second-stage journey in life by creating a new worldview through an aroused curiosity question for a deeper understanding of reality.

Quote: "All men, like all nations, are tested twice in the moral realm: first by what they do, then by what they make of what they do. The condition of guilt, a sense of one's own guilt, denotes a kind of second chance. Men are, as if by a kind of grace, given a chance to repay to the living that it is they find themselves owing the dead."
"Coming to Terms with Vietnam," by Peter Marin, Harpers, Dec. 1980.
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