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Moving to Melbourne - good suburbs for families

 
 
japan
 
Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 12:59 am
Hello,

I have read through many of the posts regarding Melbourne but still have a slew of questions and am looking to the native Melbournians on this forum for assistance.

Firstly, we are seriously considering moving to Melbourne from Japan - myself, my wife, and 2 kids (7 & 5 years old). My job would be in St. Kilda, and if at all possible, I am hoping to live somewhere close enough that I can bike to work, which means anywhere within 8-25km, preferably using bike trails if at all possible. Up to now, I have been researching the area around Brighton, Hampton, Beaumaris, basically along Beach Rd, where there appears to be a nice convenient bike trail along the bay. However, this area as I'm sure you know is quite expensive, so the housing that I am finding on the Internet (300 - 400pw price range) is predominantly 2 bedroom apartments, which isn't necessarily the end of the world for us as our present apartment in Tokyo is very small, but I suspect that there are other suburbs in Melbourne that could be equally pleasant to live in at much cheaper prices, and given that the kids are only getting bigger, the more space the better, ideally 3 bedrooms. Not being familiar with the area at all, I am hoping that some locals can provide some good tips.

Biking to work is not an absolute prerequisite, although a very big plus if possible, so if I need to commute by public transportation, if at all possible I would still like to keep it down to 30 - 45 minutes. If the housing expenses could be reduced to 200 - 300pw, then commuting by public transportation would definitely be worth considering. Any suggestions for suburbs to research with good primary schools? My children presently don't speak any English, so the focus the first 2 years is to make their transition as easy as possible.

Another general question, in the U.S., I used to live in a university town, and it was very easy to attend free seminars, functions, and concerts that were being held around campus at night, even if you weren't a student. Does anyone know if this is the case with the University of Melbourne, too? Or is everything pretty much locked down or only accessible to students? If it is an open and accessible environment, I was thinking that it might be interesting and beneficial to live nearby.

As for what kind of environment we would like to live in, it is hard to say. We presently live in a very urban area and the kids have not had any problems with it. However, in Melbourne, we wouldn't want to live in an urban area if such areas are not generally inhabited by families, or if they are considered unsafe. On the other hand, if there are nearby parks and culture that are in certain respects more accessible to the family due to their urban location, then we would defnitely be open to such a lifestyle. And if I had to choose between beautiful waterfront sunsets or my own garden, I would be hardpressed to choose either way. In short, there are pluses and minuses to each lifestyle and right now we're looking for ideas, so the more the better.

Finally, both my children presently play the violin, and we would like them to continue doing so in Melbourne. Asides from simply hiring a violin teacher, are there any structured music programs in Melbourne, for example, something similar to what the Sydney Conservatory of Music offers for children? I realize that this question is rather specialized, but if anyone has any information, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 01:16 am
Hello, japan!

I live on the other side of town, but do I think St Kilda would be a wonderful place to work. I'm wondering if there's someone at that end of town who could answer your questions?

Feel free to ask me any "Melbourne specific" questions in the meantime! Very Happy
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 08:07 am
http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=s&cu=&s=vic&ss=&ag=&t=ren&snf=&interim=1&tb=&u=CARLTON+NORTH&is=1&pme=200&pxe=300&minbed=3&maxbed=3&cat=&p=10&o=def

Japan, this site may assist. here you can search your desired price range and bedroom number.All the suburbs I saw mentioned are within easy bike ride of St kilda. Melbourne in general is quite child friendly in regard to parks and outdoor spaces.

My gut feeling is you should rent a house/townhouse for 12 months without regard to the prerequisites you state above and "get a feel for the city before you make up your mind where you would like to live.
I am sorry I cannot help with the music program That is quite a specific question so please dont think we are ignoring you.
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kriswa
 
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Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2006 10:29 pm
Moving from Japan to Melbourne
I know many Japanese who live in Melbourne, and one thing they seem to miss is the pace and convenience of their urban lifestyle -- you may well end up wanted to move to 'the city' as we call it (somewhat of a joke by Japanese standards, I know)...

For the time being, Saint Kilda is a great place to hang out, laid back, a little bohemian and relaxed. It has great nightlife, great beaches, and some of Melbourne's finest restaurants. These are spread mainly along Fitzroy Street and Acland Street, which form the Northern and Southern fringes of St Kilda's heart, to the West are the beaches, and East is St Kilda Road. Around the middle of it are the backpacker hostels and bars, along with Melbourne's biggest group of homeless shelters and half-way houses (why they are all there, I really don't know), the area is also home to Melbourne's (illegal) street prostitution, which leaves a lot of unhappy residents jizz-mopping their gardens each morning. For that reason, you probably want to look elsewhere for your family home.

A safe distance from St Kilda's seedy parts is the multicultural Balaclava (East) family-friendly Elwood (South) and Middle/Albert Park (North). Caulfield and Malvern are also very nice areas (5-10km East), which are connected to St Kilda along Dandenong Road with several trams. Brighton, Hampton and Sandringham are quiet, safe areas, but there's not a wide choice of rental property, and you're unlikely to find a decent 2-3 bedroom place in your price range, and you'll be doing a lot more cycling to work, with no direct public transport from there to St Kilda.

Brighton, Hampton, Elsternwick, Malvern, and Elwood all have well regarded public primary schools. Bear in mind, there are private programs for TESL to children, which are very successful.

Many university programs are open to the public, often with a nominal fee. You should enquire through the particular faculty related to your field on what's available. Often memberships with a commercial club / business are very rewarding, for example the Opera / Ballet / Orchestra societies have affordable memberships that give you great discounts and regular free events.

As for music, the Victorian College of the Arts is highly regarded here and internationally, second only to that in Canberra. You should approach them directly. There are also local programs in many suburbs.
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