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WAS JESUS HIMSELF A MUSLIM.............Proof...

 
 
Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 01:20 pm
JESUS in the QURAN

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The Islamic view on Jesus lies between two extremes. The Jews, who rejected Jesus as a Prophet of God, called him an impostor. The Christians, on the other hand, considered him to be the son of God and worship him as such. Islam considers Jesus to be one of the great prophets of God and respects him as much as Ibrahim (Abraham), Moses, and Mohammed.

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(Peace Be Upon Them) This is conformity with the Islamic view of the oneness of God, the oneness of Divine guidance, and the complementary role of the subsequent mission of God's messengers.

The essence of Islam - willing submission to the will of God - was revealed to Adam, who had passed it on to his children. All following revelations to Noah, Ibrahim, Moses, Jesus, and finally Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Them) were conformity with that message, with some elaboration to define the revelation between man and God, man and man, man and instructions. Thus, any contradictions among revealed religions is viewed by Islam as a man-made element introduced into these religions. The position of Jesus in the three major religions - Judaism, Christianity, and Islam - should not be an exception.

Although the Quran does not present a detailed life-story of Jesus, it highlights the important aspects of his birth, his mission, his ascension to heaven, and passes judgements on the Christian beliefs concerning him. The Quranic account of Jesus starts with the conception of his mother, Mary, whose mother, the wife of Imran, vowed to dedicate her child to the service of God in the temple. When Mary became a woman, the Holy Spirit (the Archangel Gabriel) appeared to her as a man or spirit bringing her news of a son. We read the following dialogue in the Quran between Mary and the Angel:"

When the angel said: Mary, god gives you a good tidings of a Word from Him whose name is messiah, Jesus, son of Mary - high honored shall he be in this world and the next, near stationed to God. He shall speak to men in the cradle, and of age, and righteous he shall be, lord, said Mary: How shall I have a son, seeing no mortal has touched me? Even so, he said: God creates what He will. When he decrees a thing He but say to it, Be, and it is" (Al-Imran 3:45-47).

In a chapter (Surah) entitled "Maryam" (Mary), the Quran tells us how Mary gave birth to her son, and how the people accused her when she brought the child home:

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" Then she brought the child to her folk, carrying him, and they said, "Mary, you have surely committed a monstrous thing. Sister of Aaron, your father was not a wicked man, nor your mother a woman unchaste. Mary pointed to the child; but they said, 'How shall we speak to one who still in the cradle, a little child. And he said, 'Lo, I am God's servant, God has given me the Book and made me a Prophet Blessed is He WHO has made me ,wherever I may be; and HE has enjoined me to prayer, and to give the alms so long as I live, and likewise to cherish my mother; He has not made me arrogant and wicked. Peace be upon me, the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I am raised up alive" (Maryam 19:29-33).


In the same chapter, following the above quotation, God assures Mohammed (PBUH) and through him the whole world, that what is told above is the TRUTH about Jesus (PBUH), although Christians might not accept it. Jesus is NOT the son of God: He was obviously enough, the son of Mary. The verses continue:

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" That is Jesus, son of Mary, in word of truth, concerning which they are doubting. It is not for God to take a son unto Him. Glory be to Him, He only says to it, Be, and it is" (Maryam 19:34-35).


After this strong statement about the nature of Jesus, God directed Mohammed (PBUH) to call the Christians to worship the one God:

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" Surely God is my God, and your God, so surely serve him. This is the straight path" (Maryam 19:36).


The rejection of the very idea of God having a son is restated later in the same chapter with even stronger words:

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" And they say, The All-merciful has taken unto Himself a son. You have indeed advanced something hideous. As if the skies are about to burst, the earth to split asunder and its mountain to fall down in the utter ruin for that they have attributed to the All-merciful a son; and behaves not the All-merciful to take a son. None there in the heavens and earth but comes to the All-merciful, as a servant" (Maryam 19:88-93).


The Quran recognizes the fact that Jesus had no human father, but this does not make him the son of God, or God himself. By this criterion, Adam would have been more entitled more entitled to be the son of God, because he had neither a father nor a mother, so the Quran draws attention to the miraculous creation of both in the following verses;

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" truly the likeness of Jesus, in God's sight is as Adam's likeness; He created him of dust, then He said upon him, 'Be' and he was" (Al-Imran 3:59).


The Quran rejects the concept of Trinity God the Father, God the son, God the Holy Spirit - as strongly as it rejects the concept of Jesus as the son of God. This is because GOD IS ONE. Three cannot be one. The Quran addresses Christians in the following verses from the Surah entitled "An-Nisaa" (The Women)

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" People of the Book, do not go beyond the bounds in your religion, and say nought as to God but the Truth. The messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only the messenger of God, and his word (Fulfillment of his word (Fulfillment of His command, through the word "Be", for the creation of Jesus) that he committed to Mary, and a spirit originating from Him (was given life by God). So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not 'Three'. Refrain, better is for you. God is only one God. Glory be to him-that He should have a son! To Him belongs all that is in the Heavens and in the Earth; God suffices for a guardian.


The Messiah will not disdain to be a servant of God, neither the Angels who are close to Him. Whosoever disdains to serve Him and walks proud, He will assuredly muster them to Him, all of them.

As for the believers, who do deeds of righteousness, we will pay them their rewards in full, and He will give them more, of His bounty; as for them who disdain and walks proud, then He will punish with a severe punishment, and they shall not find for them, apart from God, a friend or helper" (An-Nissa 4:171-173).

The denial of Jesus divinity (and. for the matter, of Mary's divinity) is presented in the Quran in the form of a dialogue, at the Day of Judgement, between the Almighty Jesus. All the Messengers and their nations will gather before God and He will ask the Messengers how they were received by their people and what they said to them. Among those who will be questioned is Jesus:

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" And when God said, O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say unto men, Take me and my mother as gods, apart from God? He said, To you be glory! It is not mine to say what I have no right to. If I indeed said it, you would have known it, knowing what is within my heart, though I do not know your knowledge; you know the things unseen. I only said to them what you did commands me: Serve God, my God and your God" (Al-Maida 5-116).


Given that the Quran denies the Trinity and the Sonship of Jesus, what, according to the Quran, was the real mission of Jesus? The answer is that Jesus was a link in a long chain of Prophets and Messengers sent by God to various nations and societies whenever they needed guidance or deviated from his teachings of Moses and other Messengers. As he was miraculously supported by numerous miracles to prove that he was a Messengers from God. However, the majority of the Jews rejected his ministry.

In another verse of the Quran, Jesus confirmed the validity of the Torah which was revealed to Moses, and also conveyed the glad tidings of a final Messenger who follow him:

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" And when Jesus son of Mary said, Children of Israel, I am indeed the Messenger to you, confirming the Torah that is before me, and giving good tiding of a Messenger who shall be the praised one" (As-Saff 61:6).


Note that "praised one" is a translation of "Ahmad" - The Prophet Mohammed's name. Careful study of the New Testament shows that Jesus refers to the same Prophet in John 14:16-17: "And I will give you another Counselor (The Prophet Mohammed). To be with you for ever, even the Spirit of Truth".

The usual explanation of this Prophecy is that the counselor referred to is the Holy Spirit, but this explanation is excluded by a previous verse in John: "Nevertheless I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Counselor will not come to you".

The characteristics of this counselor, as can be derived from the prophecy, are that he will stay forever with the believers, he will glorify Jesus; and he will speak what he hears from God. All four characteristics apply to the Prophet Mohammed. He came six centuries after Jesus. He came with a universal and everlasting message, fulfilling the prophecy that the counselor will stay forever with the faithful. He glorified Jesus as a great Prophet. The Quran attributes to Jesus miracles not mentioned in the Bible's Old and New Testaments, as well as specific verses in the Quran shows how the Prophet Mohammad is rejected by Jews and Christians out of prejudice and misunderstanding, rather that carefully studying the Bible.

It is a sad fact of history that not many are following the "straight path" to which people were called by Jesus. He was only followed by a few disciples inspired by God to support him. The non-believers plotted - as they would against Mohammed, six centuries later - to kill Jesus. But God had better plan for him and his followers, as the Quran tells us:

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" And when Jesus perceived their unbelief, he said: Who will be my helpers in the cause of God? The apostles said, we are Gods helpers. We believe in God; so bear witness of our submission God, we believe in that you have sent down, and we follow the Messenger. Inscribe us therefore with those who bear witness. And they devised, and God devised, and God is the best of divisors. When God said, Jesus, I will take you to Me and will raise you to Me, and I will purify you (of the falsehoods) of those who do not believe. I will make your followers above the unbelievers till the Resurrection Day" (Al-Imran 3:52-55).


As the above verses indicate, Jesus was taken and raised to heaven. He was not crucified. It was certainly the plan of the enemies of Jesus to put him to death on the cross, but God saved him and someone else was crucified:

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" And for their unbelief, and their uttering against Mary a grave false charge, and for their saying, We killed the messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the Messiah of God … yet they did not slay him, neither crucified him, only a likeness of that was shown to them. Those who are at variance concerning him are surely in doubt the following of conjecture; and they did not kill him of certainty…no indeed; God raised him up to Him; God is Almighty, All wise. There is not one of the people of the book but will assuredly believe him before his death, and on the Resurrection Day he will be a witness against them" (An-Nissa 4:156-159).


The Quran does not explain who was the person crucified instead of Jesus, nor elaborate on the Second Coming of Jesus. However, explanatory of the Quran have always interpreted the last verse of the above quotation to mean that Jesus will believe in him before he dies.

This understanding is supported by authentic sayings (Hadith) of the Prophet Mohammed may the peace and blessings of Allah him and upon all His Messengers.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 01:23 pm
You have a misspelling in the title there . . . you added an "r" to the word Poof . . . as a peddler of poofism, i should think you wouldn't make mistakes like that.


You know, you have never explained to me how you can take seriously the spiritual maunderings of an illiterate dead-beat who supported himself by marrying a string of widows, and who finished by marrying and committing matriomonial rape against a nine-year-old girl.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 01:42 pm
I would think that Jesus (if he existed) would have pronounced the name of his God 'Yahweh'.
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fresco
 
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Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 02:03 pm
AND WAS MOHAMMED A REJECTED "JEWISH MESSIAH"

"Modern research has indicated that Muhammad initially took on himself many aspects of Rabbinic Judaism, like Dhu Nuwas before him. It is known that Muhammad required that his followers keep kosher and the fast of Yom Kippur, circumcise and pray facing Jerusalem. Muhammad's militant monotheistic religion was called Islam, meaning "surrender [to God]," and its followers were Muslims, meaning "those who have surrendered." His inspired teachings would bring unity to the Arabian peninsula, an event that had sweeping consequences for the rest of the world. In the Qur'an it is recorded that the native Jewish Priests rejected his claim, and Muhammad in turn renounced them for deserting him. Later many Jewish laws were changed, Muhammad requested that his followers pray towards Mecca, and a new religion was created.

At Medina, Muhammad overthrew the ruling Jewish elite, confiscated Jewish land, built a theocratic state, and led raids on trading caravans from Mecca. Attempts by Meccan armies to defeat the Muslim forces failed. The local Jewish Priests sided with the enemy and Arab hostility against the Jews began to show itself. The Jewish Priestly tribes of Bani Nadhir and Qainuqa' were expelled. At the instigation of an increasing number of Christian converts to Islam, an Islamic army exterminated the Jewish community of Quraiza. As a result of the Prophet Muhammad's resentment, the Qur'an itself contains many of hostile denunciations of Jews and bitter attacks upon the Jewish tradition, which undoubtedly have colored the beliefs of religious Muslims down to the present."

http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/theprophet.html
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 02:22 pm
Was Space Ghost really a cartoon? Proof:

http://www.tntie.com/ashleys4jc/
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 02:24 pm
Was Huckleberry Hound really Santa Claus? Proof:

http://pages.tias.com/12596/PictPage/1922693424.html
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 04:58 pm
Blacksmithn, you are providing genuine services to the concerned world community with those timely exposés . . .
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 06:13 pm
Hey, I may be putting a few noses out of joint with my personal brand of hard-hitting investigative journalism, but the truth must be told!
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 06:16 pm
You know, I remember how someone suggested Jesus was a Buddhist because the story of the Three Wise Men following a star sounded suspiciously like how Tibetan monks find their new Dalai Lama.
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dalahow2
 
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Reply Sat 25 Mar, 2006 05:53 am
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God directed Mohammed (PBUH) to call the Christians to worship the one God:

In The HOLY Quraan..

" Surely God is my God, and your God, so surely serve him. This is the straight path" (Maryam 19:36).


So was Jesus Son, The God, A prophet..The Holy Spirit

No wonder you have issues with ISLAM....
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chr42690
 
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Reply Sat 25 Mar, 2006 10:39 am
Islam is a sick fundamentalist religion where holy wars and suicide bombers are encouraged.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Sat 25 Mar, 2006 11:24 am
chr42690 wrote:
Islam is a sick fundamentalist religion where holy wars and suicide bombers are encouraged.


You obviously haven't met some of my Muslims friends. They're not fundamentalist at all and wouldn't suicide bomb if you paid them a million pounds and 72 virgins.
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chr42690
 
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Reply Sat 25 Mar, 2006 11:37 am
What the Koran Says
Islam teaches a deep intolerance for those of other faiths. The Hadith, the publication of Muhammad's sayings, says that, "One raid for the cause of god is better than seventy hajj." I know that certain Muslims are peaceful but the Koran approves jihad and high taxation against non-Muslims in order to mkae them submit to Islam.

Sura 9:29: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibted, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book [Jews and Christians], until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Sat 25 Mar, 2006 12:14 pm
Actually, Islam teaches that Christians and Jews are also God's people. It however, does seem to teach Muslims that although Christians and Jews are also God's people and of a faith that God favours, Muslims are superior.
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chr42690
 
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Reply Sat 25 Mar, 2006 12:57 pm
I don't see why Muslims would treat people this way if they believe they are also God's people.
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dalahow2
 
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Reply Sun 26 Mar, 2006 03:18 am
Answered
Ask The muslims questions in English, French, Arabic, indonesian, Japanese, spanish, chinese or Urdu
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dalahow2
 
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Reply Sat 1 Apr, 2006 08:16 am
chr42690 wrote:
Islam is a sick fundamentalist religion where holy wars and suicide bombers are encouraged.



Are you sure..

Readers, I think, this are the kind of propagandas against Islam that we need to refute at all cost.


Maybe you are Talking about This.....

A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO ISLAM

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Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.


Everything and every phenomenon in the world other than man is administered totally by God-made laws, ie. they are obedient to God and submissive to his laws, they are in the State of Islam. Man possesses the qualities of intelligence and choice, thus he is invited to submit to the good will of God and obey His law, ie, become a Muslim.

Submission to the good will of God, together with obedience to His beneficial Law, ie, becoming a Muslim, is the best safeguard for man's peace and harmony.

Islam dates back to the age of Adam and its message has been conveyed to man by God's prophets and messengers, including Abrahim, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

Islam's message has been restored and enforced in the last stage of the religious evolution by God's last prophet and messenger, Muhammad.

The word Allah in the Arabic language means God, or more accurately, The One and Only Eternal God, Creator of the Universe, Lord of all lords, King of all kings, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful.

The word Allah to mean God is also used by Arabic speaking Jews and Christians.
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chr42690
 
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Reply Sat 1 Apr, 2006 12:29 pm
dalahow2 wrote:
chr42690 wrote:
Islam is a sick fundamentalist religion where holy wars and suicide bombers are encouraged.



Are you sure..

Readers, I think, this are the kind of propagandas against Islam that we need to refute at all cost.


Maybe you are Talking about This.....

A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO ISLAM

Quote:
Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.


Everything and every phenomenon in the world other than man is administered totally by God-made laws, ie. they are obedient to God and submissive to his laws, they are in the State of Islam. Man possesses the qualities of intelligence and choice, thus he is invited to submit to the good will of God and obey His law, ie, become a Muslim.

Submission to the good will of God, together with obedience to His beneficial Law, ie, becoming a Muslim, is the best safeguard for man's peace and harmony.

Islam dates back to the age of Adam and its message has been conveyed to man by God's prophets and messengers, including Abrahim, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

Islam's message has been restored and enforced in the last stage of the religious evolution by God's last prophet and messenger, Muhammad.

The word Allah in the Arabic language means God, or more accurately, The One and Only Eternal God, Creator of the Universe, Lord of all lords, King of all kings, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful.

The word Allah to mean God is also used by Arabic speaking Jews and Christians.


Then why are all of the terrorists Muslim?
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nick17
 
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Reply Sat 8 Apr, 2006 03:21 am
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galations 3:28

Why cant we all accept that we are all the same, that we worship the same God. Jesus was a Jew, I'm a Christian; what does it matter, we "are all one"
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Sat 8 Apr, 2006 06:46 am
chr42690 wrote:
Then why are all of the terrorists Muslim?


Because all the non-Islamic terrorists have either been dealt with or still haven't done anything yet.

i.e. IRA and ETA?
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