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New Species Discovered in Indonesia Jungle

 
 
Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 09:26 am
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 09:29 am
yes, in the next few years they will discover a new mouse there....Mickey.
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 09:41 am
Re: New Species Discovered in Indonesia Jungle
bobsmythhawk wrote:
"But clearly with time everything is a threat. In the next few decades there will be strong demands, especially if you think of the timber needs of nearby countries like China and Japan. They will be very hungry for logs."


If I weren't such a humorless conservative, I could work with the word "logs".
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 09:42 am
I think you just dropped one on bobs thread Rog...
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 10:02 am
Well, at least it didn't leave me as the final poster - thread killer.
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 10:02 am
Ooops!
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bobsmythhawk
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 10:27 am
(scratching his head) If they see the problem and it's logs why don't they just plant more trees?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 10:28 am
Amazing that places like this still exist.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 02:58 pm
From the (London, UK) Evening Standard, February 5, 2006, West End Final Edition:

http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/349/clipboard32in.jpg

http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/5521/clipboard39em.jpg
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 04:05 pm
Thanks for the thread, BSH--they've been reporting this on the CBC today--fascinatin' stuff . . .
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bobsmythhawk
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 08:52 am
Hi Setanta:

It's already amazing. The mind boggles when you realize they've only scratched the surface. Here's hoping they have sense enough to limit exploration to ensure that conditions remains stable for this unique environment.

Bob
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 11:47 am
Amazing stuff. I wonder how many of these little isolated pockets there are left in the world.
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Pitter
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2006 05:57 pm
Isn'that close to the area where they found several species of birds with poisonous feathers about eight years ago ?
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bobsmythhawk
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2006 03:41 am
I believe it's New Guinea you're thinking about.




MAUREEN ROUHI

Unusual toxic alkaloids belonging to the family of batrachotoxins--previously known only in poison-dart frogs and birds of the genus Pitohui--have been found in a second bird species of a different genus. The finding suggests that chemical defenses among birds might be more widespread than previously thought and raises questions about the origin and ecological roles of the batrachotoxins.

The discovery of the alkaloids in Ifrita kowaldi birds was reported by John P. Dumbacher, a researcher at the National Zoological Park, Washington, D.C., and chemists John W. Daly and Thomas F. Spande of the National Institutes of Health (Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci., Early Edition, Oct. 17).

Dumbacher's involvement in the research dates back to 1989, when he was a graduate student studying the courtship and mating behavior of a species of birds in New Guinea. He sometimes found other kinds of birds trapped in his nets. Those of the genus Pitohui were nasty.

The first time Dumbacher took a Pitohui out of a net, the bird scratched his fingers. "My fingers started to burn," he recalls. "And if you put your finger in your mouth after handling a Pitohui, your mouth begins to tingle. It's a lot like tasting hot chili peppers or touching a 9-volt battery." He says the natives of New Guinea knew the birds were poisonous, calling them trash birds because they are useless as food.

http://pubs.acs.org/cen/critter/birds.html
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navigator
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2006 04:14 am
So, let's go Cool
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Pitter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2006 05:21 am
Yes that's it thanks.
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sumac
 
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Reply Sat 11 Feb, 2006 10:54 am
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2006 09:04 pm
Garden of Eden...
A neat story.
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bobsmythhawk
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2006 09:03 am
It struck me that way too. There are so many stories of species disappearing that one stating new life found is a refreshing difference.
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