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ali87
 
Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:33 am
Why are pedophilia and homosexuality common in the Christian churches?

http://www.answering-christianity.com/pedophile_and_homosexual_priests.htm
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:36 am
Because we thought the vast homosexuality and sexual perversions taught by the Muslims looked like fun.

Mohammad was one wild and crazy guy! Dig those 6 year olds!!!
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ali87
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:46 am
Lash wrote:
Because we thought the vast homosexuality and sexual perversions taught by the Muslims looked like fun.

Mohammad was one wild and crazy guy! Dig those 6 year olds!!!



but i thought christianity came before islam! HAHAHAHA
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ali87
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:48 am
Girls at the age of 3 were forced into sex in both the Talmud and the Bible. Also, the age consent in US and Europe was as low as 10:


http://www.answering-christianity.com/age3.htm
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ali87
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:48 am
Graphical Pornography in the Bible:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac10.htm#links
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ali87
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:49 am
Raped women are forced to marry their rapists in the Bible!


http://www.answering-christianity.com/que10.htm
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:50 am
So you're saying rape is a bad thing?
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:51 am
The interesting difference is those accounts of barbarity in the Christian religion were condemned by the focal figure in the Christian religion, Jesus----and practiced by Mohammad.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:51 am
Oh. I forgot.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So, what will you do now? Burn a building?
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ali87
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:51 am
Lash wrote:
Because we thought the vast homosexuality and sexual perversions taught by the Muslims looked like fun.

Mohammad was one wild and crazy guy! Dig those 6 year olds!!!




"the vast homosexuality and sexual perversions taught by the Muslims"


LOL show this to me from the Quran, as i proved it to be in the bible
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ali87
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:53 am
Lash wrote:
The interesting difference is those accounts of barbarity in the Christian religion were condemned by the focal figure in the Christian religion, Jesus----and practiced by Mohammad.



no actually its the other way around, all you christian say that the Quran was stolen from the bible, but when it comes to this u try to flip it on us, because we find porn in the bible, but not in the Quran! so now the bible was stolen from the Quran? lolllll
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:55 am
Check out Mohammad and the baby he raped. You know where it is.

And, btw, for anyone watching this--the stuff he claimed in the Bible,... I followed two of the links and got out my Bible. He's lying about at least two. We all know some heinous stuff did occur in the Bible, but don't take his list as factual. It's not.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:58 am
ali--

This is what you need to know:

We each have the right to worship whoever or whatever we choose.

It is a show of self-doubt and doubt in your religion when you constantly try to denigrate someone else's religion, so you feel more secure in your beliefs.

Get off your soapbox and assimilate. I don't need to defend Christianity to you. I'm doing it for fun. But, it is a waste of time for both of us.
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ali87
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 11:00 am
Lash wrote:
ali--

This is what you need to know:

We each have the right to worship whoever or whatever we choose.

It is a show of self-doubt and doubt in your religion when you constantly try to denigrate someone else's religion, so you feel more secure in your beliefs.

Get off your soapbox and assimilate. I don't need to defend Christianity to you. I'm doing it for fun. But, it is a waste of time for both of us.



its not? yes it is, the bible is made up of 27 books atleast, go read those 27 books and tell me that its not
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flushd
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 11:01 am
Ali,

You should consider making one thread in this forum to show your opinions about Christians and Islam.

Some of us don't care, and you are flooding this area will questions that are merely asked to make your point. If you were asking a question which was a legit. query, and you were open to listening to others views, it might not be such an annoyance to see so many threads started by you.

We all understand your views: you believe is Islam is #1 and the Truth.

Okay. Can we move on now?

BTW: Why in the world would I focus on rapists and pedos that are long dead? Who cares? I'm more concerned about that ones that are alive, walking the streets, and I don't care what religion they belong to. They are all creeps.
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Redeemed
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 11:28 am
Just a note: The Bible includes a lot of narrative containing accounts of sin (ie. David's adultery, Lot's sins, etc.). Narrative is not necessarily prescriptive. Narrative may in some instances be an example of how to live, but making the distinction requires careful exegesis (discovering what is really going on in the text) and a consistent application of hermaneutics (what does the text mean to us today). Because the Bible specifically condemns rape, adultery, and sexual immorality, I would consider stories containing such things to not be prescriptive.

Some examples:
~ Exodus 20:14 (commandment against adultery)
~ Leviticus 20:19-20 (condemns incest).
~ Deuteronomy 22:25-26 (sentences a rapist to death).
~ Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (This law states that a man who rapes an unengaged virgin must marry her. While this would seem to be unfair to the girl, it was probably for her protection. After a girl was "used," she was cast off in society, even if it wasn't her fault. No one would want to marry her. This ensures her a protected position in society as a married women.)

Ali, could you please provide a reference in the Bible (not the Talmud, which Christians do not recognize as Scriptural), where Moses commanded that 3 year old girls be raped? Thank you.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 12:26 pm
I'm beginning to understand the strength of the opposition to ID if this thread is what religion is about in the US.
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ali87
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:06 pm
Redeemed wrote:
Just a note: The Bible includes a lot of narrative containing accounts of sin (ie. David's adultery, Lot's sins, etc.). Narrative is not necessarily prescriptive. Narrative may in some instances be an example of how to live, but making the distinction requires careful exegesis (discovering what is really going on in the text) and a consistent application of hermaneutics (what does the text mean to us today). Because the Bible specifically condemns rape, adultery, and sexual immorality, I would consider stories containing such things to not be prescriptive.

Some examples:
~ Exodus 20:14 (commandment against adultery)
~ Leviticus 20:19-20 (condemns incest).
~ Deuteronomy 22:25-26 (sentences a rapist to death).
~ Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (This law states that a man who rapes an unengaged virgin must marry her. While this would seem to be unfair to the girl, it was probably for her protection. After a girl was "used," she was cast off in society, even if it wasn't her fault. No one would want to marry her. This ensures her a protected position in society as a married women.)

Ali, could you please provide a reference in the Bible (not the Talmud, which Christians do not recognize as Scriptural), where Moses commanded that 3 year old girls be raped? Thank you.




lolll, hilarious indeed, but when its in ur favor then it becomes literal right? lolll, buddy go read about the laws of rape that god made in the bible, and how raped women were forced to marry their rapists.
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ali87
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:07 pm
remember these are laws by God in the bible, its not telling a story. its laws to be followed by all generations. why dont we today? u think about that urself.
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Redeemed
 
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Reply Mon 6 Feb, 2006 12:46 pm
Ali wrote:

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lolll, hilarious indeed, but when its in ur favor then it becomes literal right? lolll, buddy go read about the laws of rape that god made in the bible, and how raped women were forced to marry their rapists.


I've already addressed that in my previous post. If you find my explanation insufficient, feel free to say so; however, don't act like I ignored it. Also, I don't know what you are referring to when you say that it becomes literal when it's in my favor. Old Testament law is literal. There's really no other way to look at it.

On to the your other points in this thread: First of all, I've already stated and will state again that the Christian does not consider the Talmud to be Scripture. I may disagree with the Talmud (which was the Israelites' interpretation of the law, as well as other traditions they held) while still being consistent as a Christian who believes the Bible. It's not a sacred book.

About the website links you provided on this thread: none of the verses in the Bible that were referenced say anything at all about raping 3 year old girls. You say that the Talmud says it. To me it doesn't matter. I disagree with the Talmud (just like I wouldn't agree with the traditions found in a lot of other ancient books). Using it as a weapon against Christianity just isn't effective.

Also, the Bible itself condemns a lot of the things that the Israelites chose to do. Just because the Israelites did it doesn't mean that the Bible condones it.

As to dashing babies against rocks... Psalm 137:8-9 says this: "O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us - he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."

My suggestion is this: Read the entire Psalm. These are not words coming out of the Christian God's mouth - they are words coming from an exile living in Babylon. It is a plea to God for deliverance. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate that God would have been pleased had someone actually harmed children in this way.
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