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Mon 30 Jan, 2006 10:17 am
What is life? Man's existence in this world and the creation of this entire universe are not mere accidents or products of a fortuitous nature. This universe, every single atom of it, manifests and leads us to the realization of a Loving, Merciful and All-powerful Creator. Without a Creator, nothing can exist. Every single soul knows that he is existing and that his existence is dependent upon a Creator he knows for sure that he cannot create himself. Therefore it is his duty to know his master, the Creator.
Mankind: Man is a unique creature. God gave man the ability to govern over all other creatures in this world. He is endowed with the faculty of reason which sets him apart from all other animals. Together with this faculty to discriminate and discern, man is given the freedom (free-will) to choose for himself a way of life worthy of his position or to fall lower than the lowest of all animals or creations. Man is born pure and sinless and is given the choice to do righteous deeds or indulge in sins.
Divine Guidance: The Creator, out of His abundant Love and Mercy for mankind has not left us in darkness to discover the right path by trial and error alone. Coupled with our intellectual capability to reason, our Creator bestowed upon us Divine Guidance that outlines the criterion for truth, knowledge, as well as the reality of our existence in this world and the Hereafter.
Revelations: From the beginning of mankind, our Creator sent Prophets to convey His revelation and to invite human beings to the path of true peace and obedience to the One True God. This is Islam. This message is conveyed towards successive generations of man through the different prophets, all inviting mankind to the same path. However all the earlier messages or revelations from God were distorted by people of later generations.
As a result of this distortion, pure Revelation from our Creator was adulterated and polluted with myths, superstitions, idol worship and irrational philosophical ideologies. The religion of God in a sense was lost in a plethora of religions. Human history is a testament of man's drift between light and darkness, but God out of His abundant love for mankind has not forsaken us.
Final Revelation: When mankind was in the depths of the Dark Ages, our Creator sent His final Messenger, Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu ?'alaihi wa sallam) to redeem humanity with the final revelation which represents the ultimate and permanent source of guidance for the whole world.
Criteria For Truth: The following criteria can best serve as a gauge to find out the authenticity of the last revelation (the Qur'aan) as the Word of God:
Rational Teachings:
Since our Creator bestowed reason and intellect upon us, it is our duty to use it to distinguish the truth from falsehood. True, undistorted revelation from God must be rational and can be reasoned out by all unbiased minds.
Perfection:
Since our Creator is all perfect, His revelation must be perfect and accurate, free from mistakes, omissions, interpolations and multiplicity of versions. It should be free from contradictions in its narration.
No Myths or Superstitions:
True revelation is free from myths or superstitions that degrade the dignity of our Creator or man himself.
Scientific:
Since our Creator is the Creator of all knowledge, true revelation is scientific and can withstand the challenge of science at all times.
Factual Prophecy:
Our Creator is the Knower of the past, present and future. Thus His prophecies in His revelation will be fulfilled as prophesied.
Inimitable By Man:
True revelation is infallible and cannot be imitated by man. God's true revelation is a Living miracle, an open book challenging all mankind to see and prove for themselves.
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Yes indeed, we do exist (at least I think so).
However, I have come to a different conclusion from yours regarding 'creation'.
I believe that what exists (in its most fundamental form) has always existed. Things made up from fundamental forms have existed since they became existant or evolved.
There was no start, there will be no end.
But things definitely change, perhaps from mass to energy and back again, totally or partially (Big Bangs, perhaps many of them).
You see, nothing can happen without cause(s).
Therefore there can have been no first cause.
OK., matter and energy may be transported to different points in space and appear to be 'created', but it only seems so because the transportaion is invisible to us.
This does not kill off your 'God' by the way.
If God(s) do exist, they are products of development of the system which has been running permanently as I said before.
What shows me there is a creator is the fact that some atoms just make wood and metal and stardust, and then others do everyything they can for a certain number of years to work together and keep something alive, giving it thoughts and a conscience and feelings.
Quote:What is life? Man's existence in this world and the creation of this entire universe are not mere accidents or products of a fortuitous nature
You know this? No, it's just your opinion. It would more honest if you said so.
Perhaps "The Happiness of Guessing" would be a far better title for this thread than "The Light of Truth"
Mohammad literally means "light of truth" noone was named Mohammad before him, even jesus himself mentioned Mohammad's name in the bible.
Mohammed was an illiterate rutting pig who raped little girls . . . apart from that, i'm sure he was a real nice guy . . .
rhymer wrote:Yes indeed, we do exist (at least I think so).
However, I have come to a different conclusion from yours regarding 'creation'.
I believe that what exists (in its most fundamental form) has always existed. Things made up from fundamental forms have existed since they became existant or evolved.
There was no start, there will be no end.
But things definitely change, perhaps from mass to energy and back again, totally or partially (Big Bangs, perhaps many of them).
You see, nothing can happen without cause(s).
Therefore there can have been no first cause.
OK., matter and energy may be transported to different points in space and appear to be 'created', but it only seems so because the transportaion is invisible to us.
This does not kill off your 'God' by the way.
If God(s) do exist, they are products of development of the system which has been running permanently as I said before.
Entropy poses quite a big problem for your view.
Setanta wrote:Mohammed was an illiterate rutting pig who raped little girls . . . apart from that, i'm sure he was a real nice guy . . .
PROVE YOUR CLAIM, OR RU GONNA MAKE A FLYING STATEMENT AGAIN?
Setanta wrote:Mohammed was an illiterate rutting pig who raped little girls . . . apart from that, i'm sure he was a real nice guy . . .
i admit he was illiterate, but i dont agree with the rest. prove that he was indeed a rutting pig, cuz he forbade eating pig flesh? and prove that he raped little girls.
Even Jesus did not drink alcohol nor did he eat pork; yet most Christians do.
real life wrote:rhymer wrote:Yes indeed, we do exist (at least I think so).
However, I have come to a different conclusion from yours regarding 'creation'.
I believe that what exists (in its most fundamental form) has always existed. Things made up from fundamental forms have existed since they became existant or evolved.
There was no start, there will be no end.
But things definitely change, perhaps from mass to energy and back again, totally or partially (Big Bangs, perhaps many of them).
You see, nothing can happen without cause(s).
Therefore there can have been no first cause.
OK., matter and energy may be transported to different points in space and appear to be 'created', but it only seems so because the transportaion is invisible to us.
This does not kill off your 'God' by the way.
If God(s) do exist, they are products of development of the system which has been running permanently as I said before.
Entropy poses quite a big problem for your view.
ENTROPY definition - "a thermodynamic quantity representing the amount of energy in a system that is no longer available for doing mechanical work"
I do not presume that the matter and energy of which we are aware is limited to the Universal entities of which we are currently aware.
Maybe energy can be transferred between 'our' system and limitless other systems of which we are totally ignorant because they are so far away.
These are just my ideas by the way: please don't just accept them or reject them because you don't want to think about them, see if they hold any worthwhile consideration, develop them, criticise them logically as 'real life' has done, for the benefit of all.
It seems to me that these claims by Muslims to "the moral highground" are completely negated by their failure to to treat their own "followers" with visible decency. Women are mistreated, refugeee aid is embezzled, oil revenue is squandered, and voting is rigged. Instead of preaching their platitudes to others, let them put their own house in order !
It is odd you claim that refugee aid is embezzled even though Zakat (charity) is the third of the pillars of Islam; yet it isn't in Christianity.
Don't even start with women, becuase no one abuses more than you Christians will all of their fornication and cheating that is commonplace for you. No wonder AIDS and STDs are spreading in Christian communities; for God has warned us - the more wrong doing the more diseases will flourish and spread.
Votting is rigged? Look at your president; what a disgrace and yet he was re-elected?! :S
There is another view of God and us. The way we are and why. More information is at my web site below and is self-explanatory.
Raul-7
Since I am neither a Christian nor an American your comments are somewhat misdirected. Irrespective of whether your counter claims are correct, it is elementary logic that it does not excuse Islamicists from the claims against them !
The fact that you engage in such a purile argument merely serves to underline the worthlessness of your case.
ali87 wrote:Setanta wrote:Mohammed was an illiterate rutting pig who raped little girls . . . apart from that, i'm sure he was a real nice guy . . .
PROVE YOUR CLAIM, OR RU GONNA MAKE A FLYING STATEMENT AGAIN?
Funny how the words "pig" and "fly" end up in this same post.
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