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Why did LILITH devorced Adam and merryed Satan?

 
 
Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2006 08:53 am
in the Death Sea Scrolls, There are something difference with the Bible. the wife of Adam is LILITH. and human(Lilin) is the children of LiLITH and SATAN. to some extent, I feel puzzled. Which one is true, the Bible or the Death Sea Scrolls?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2006 08:57 am
Longbowman- Welcome to A2K! Very Happy

Since both the bible and the Dead Sea Scrolls were writings by primitive peoples who were describing ancient oral traditions, there is no way of determining the veracity of any of it.
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Chai
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2006 10:47 am
Adam wouldn't let her be on top.

When she left him, he married Eve.

He should have stayed w/ Lilleth.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2006 04:41 pm
Lilith has a polytheisitic past. Here is the translated text from the Gilgamesh Prologue:

After heaven and earth had been separated
and mankind had been created,
after An&ucircum, Enlil and Ereskigal had taken posesssion
of heaven, earth and the underworld;
after Enki had set sail for the underworld
and the sea ebbed and flowed in honor of its lord;
on this day, a huluppu tree
which had been planted on the banks of the Euphrates
and nourished by its waters
was uprooted by the south wind
and carried away by the Euphrates.
A goddess who was wandering among the banks
siezed the swaying tree
And -- at the behest of Anu and Enlil --
brought it to Inanna's garden in Uruk.
Inanna tended the tree carefully and lovingly
she hoped to have a throne and a bed
made for herself from its wood.
After ten years, the tree had matured.
But in the meantime, she found to her dismay
that her hopes could not be fulfilled.
because during that time
a dragon had built its nest at the foot of the tree
the Zu-bird was raising its young in the crown,
and the demon Lilith had built her house in the middle.[1]
But Gilgamesh, who had heard of Inanna's plight,
came to her rescue.
He took his heavy shield
killed the dragon with his heavy bronze axe,
which weighed seven talents and seven minas.
Then the Zu-bird flew into the mountains
with its young,
while Lilith, petrified with fear,
tore down her house and fled into the wilderness

Prologue
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2006 05:49 pm
Re: Why did LILITH devorced Adam and merryed Satan?
Longbowman wrote:
in the Death Sea Scrolls,


The "Death" sea scrolls?

Longbowman wrote:
There are something difference with the Bible. the wife of Adam is LILITH. and human(Lilin) is the children of LiLITH and SATAN. to some extent, I feel puzzled. Which one is true, the Bible or the Death Sea Scrolls?


Wait a minutes, you mean there are things in the Bible which don't make sense?
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Pauligirl
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2006 08:08 pm
http://www.lilitu.com/lilith/historical.html
lilith is most well-known as the demoness/goddess who was the first woman, created by god at the same time as adam, unlike eve who was created from adam's rib. lilith refused to submit to adam's will and left the garden of eden and was subsequently cursed by god. according to popular opinion, this tale is "evidence" that she was originally a goddess or at the very least an aspect of the great goddess and was demonized for being an independant female.
Unfortunately, what many people forget is that the "first eve" story of lilith first appeared in medieval times, in the controversial work known as the alphabet of ben sirah. although lilith herself existed before the middle ages, all earlier descriptions of her were demonic. lilith's true origins are obscure, but both her sumerian and babylonian predecessors were also all demonic. lilith may be many things today, including but not limited to a goddess, a role model, and a demoness, but originally she was purely a demoness.


http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~humm/Topics/Lilith/
Overview of Lilith
Lilith is the most important of a small collection of named female demons in Jewish legend. Historically, she is actually older than Judaism (at least Judaism as defined as a post-restoration phenomenon). Her earliest appearance is probably in ancient Sumer. Although it is far from certain, she may be a minor character in a prologue to the Epic of Gilgamesh. In the ancient world she also sometimes appears in magical texts, amulets, etc., intended to thwart her activities. She appears once in the Bible (Isaiah), in a context that associates her with demons of the desert, and again in some Dead Sea Scroll passages clearly based on the Isaiah reference.
We see somewhat more of her in late Roman/early medieval Judaism. She appears frequently on prophylactic magical bowls. In this context, she is clearly associated with childbirth (e.g. as a threat), and perhaps also as a succubus against which men need protection. In these bowls she is often countered by invoking the powers of her nemesis angels: Snvi, Snsvi, and Smnglof (we don't know what vowels to use with these names, but presumably they were intended to be pronounceable). She also shows up in the Talmud, and is clearly linked with the demonic world. Here also, her role as succubus begins to take clear shape.
Somewhere between the eighth and tenth centuries, CE, she makes an appearance in a satirical work entitled the Alphabet of Ben Sira. It is here that she is first given what has become her most famous persona: the first wife of Adam (before Eve). In this story, she is created at more or less the same time as Adam, and, as was Adam, out of the ground. Because of this she tries to assert her equality -- an assertion which Adam rejects. Refusing to conform to Adam's desires, she escapes from Eden, and is subsequently replaced by the more subservient Eve (who has less claim to equality, since she was made out of Adam's side). Having escaped Eden, Lilith takes on her renowned role as baby-stealer and mother of demons. She also promises to leave babies alone who are protected by amulets with the names of the three angels mentioned above.
More on Lilith:
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~humm/Topics/Lilith/lilith.html
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2006 08:18 pm
I've read about Lilith. Some think it would explain crib death.
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Longbowman
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 12:46 am
Thank you everyone. This question has puzzled me many times.
I'm a antitheist, but I enthuse over finding parable in each kind of religions, especially about the creation of our world. Thank you again.
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material girl
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 04:26 am
The title of your thread confused me.If Adam and Lillith were the first people on the planet how can they be married?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 05:53 am
I'm the other one wrote:
I've read about Lilith. Some think it would explain crib death.


When you believe in things
You don't understand
You'll suffer
Superstition ain't the way . . .



Oogie boogie, my-2-punkins ! ! !
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 09:13 pm
Set, if you think for a minute that I was trying to hide my identity on SW forum, or that I never thought anyone from here would enter there, you either need to stop thinking or think a wee wittle bit harder, cause I knew that not only is it a public forum, but I aslo knew he was posting the link here, and that a few of the members from here already joined there.

So Pppppththththth!!!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 09:15 pm
Actually, no one would have been allowed to post that link . . . it would have been removed, at any event.

You cracked me up with that crib death post, though . . . first class entertainment . . .
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 09:35 pm
Glad to be of service. Very Happy
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