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Why Ancient People Believed in Spirits.

 
 
Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 03:58 pm
Okay, I know this happens to everyone. I'll describe what happened on last Friday morning and everyone will say, "That happens to everyone." and it happens to me a lot, but this particular experience was more intense than usual. What happened was I lost my glasses and then I found them, but there's more and the reader is saying "There'd better be."

It was Friday morning, I had gotten up early, paid some bills on the computer, checked my email, put in a comment or two on A2K and then ate a little breakfast. My plan was to send out the laundry and then head downtown to the NY Historical Society to see the exhibit Slavery in New York. I just finished reading, well, listening to on my MP3, Jill LaPore's book New York Burning : Liberty, Slavery, and Conspiracy in Eighteenth-Century Manhattan and I wanted to see what other insights the exhibit might reveal. I got all the clothes together, called for the pick-up, went into the bathroom to shave, picked out a shirt to wear, checked for a reply on A2K, got my shoes on and brought my jacket into the living room to be ready to make a quick getaway as soon as the laundry guy arrived. I have found in the past if I don't get out of the apartment immediately other things keep intervening until suddenly it's mid-afternoon and time for a nap.

Okay, so about 9:30 the guy comes, only it's one of the ladies from the shop, I help her put the huge bag into the shopping cart she has wisely brought and off she goes. Separate, no bleach, no Downy, it'll be ready by four in the afternoon. I put on my jacket, go get my keys, my phone and my Palm off of my desk and look for my glasses. No glasses. "That's odd." I thought, " I thought they were here." So, off I go to the bedroom. Are they on the bureau? Nope. Oh, that's right, they must be in the bathroom from when you shaved. Open the bathroom door and checkout the sinktop. No glasses. Huh. Go look in the kitchen. No. Go look in the bathroom again and check out the bed to see if I left them there when I put on my shirt. No. Maybe I never had them on today so they are still on the bedside table. No, they are not.

Now I am getting too hot with the jacket on so I take it off and put on the back on the loveseat. I go look on the desk again. Not there. I move some papers and pick up an empty soda can. I check A2K and see a reply, I sit down and type a short response. Okay, now time to find the glasses. I toss the empty can into the trash and I go back to the bedroom, they are still not on the bureau, still not on the bedside table. Wait a minute, I watched some TV weather early this morning so I must have had them on then. The Today show had this really cool girl singer on, KT Tunstall a kind of one girl band, she used an echo machine to make a backup signature and then used her guitarbody to make a drumnoise and stomped on a mic-ed tambourine on the floor with her left foot. Picture etc hereVery appealing, folkie and poppy music with a nice edge. You could tell that she had done a lot of street singing. Maybe I left the glasses on the hassock. No. Maybe I left the glasses on the hassock and when one of the cats knocked some of the magazines down, the glasses fell with them. On hands and knees, look under the loveseats, look under the hassock. Pick up the magazines.

Now this is where it gets weird. Your mind begins to think very odd things. Maybe they got thrown into the laundry?. Maybe I should call the laundry and ask them to look. Maybe they are under the bed- no- maybe they fell behind the bedside table, no, because remember you had them on when you were watching tv. Are you sure they are not on the desk? Look again. Pick up and move everything around. Wait, don't move everything, you might cover them up by mistake. Think when was the last time you saw them? At the desk. Right. But they are not there so they have to be in the bedroom. Go there. Look under the bed again only this time use the CSI Technique of using a mini-flashlight to focus your attention. Look under spouse's side of the bed too. Carefully remove covers one by one off your side of the bed in case your dropped them when you put on the shirt. That was wrong before and it's wrong this time too.

Where the heck are they? Now just a little panic starts to set in, I can't really work or walk around without them. I could make do for a few days but distance viewing would give me a headache in no time. I've got to find them. Start over. Do you have them on? Duh, no. Okay.... Hassock, no, desk, no, under desk, no, in wastebasket, no, on file cabinet, no, by the microwave, no, by the toaster, no, IN THE REFRIGERATOR, no and you are being silly. Yeah, so where are they, smartass voice guy? They are here, I reassure the semi-panicked I, and I go back into the bathroom, are they in the tub? Are they down in that little space between the sink and the tub. No.

An hour has gone by and then an hour and a half. I have taken my shoes off. I have given up. They are not here. They are not with the laundry, they would have called when they found them as the sorted the stuff. They have disappeared. I lay on the bed and try to relax, they will show up I say, they have to, I really need them. I go into the living room and shut off the tv. I decide to check to see if there is a reply to my reply. I go to the desk.

And there they are. Right where I left them.
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1245/lost10fo.jpg
I was shocked. I was startled and put a little off kilter, I felt like someone had tricked me, my world actually spun, my head wooshed. I laughed. I started to cry a little. There they were, right where I thought I had left them in the first place. Was I nuts? How could I have missed them? I was shaking. No wonder ancient people believed in spirits, I said out loud. The sound in my voice startled me again, it didn't sound like me, it sounded like my father. ... .

Now, I know I looked right at the spot not once but several times and they were not there or they were hidden from my sight or the hoo-doos had them or something. Yet, here they are now. Innocent, without any way of telling me where they were all the time I was looking for them.
Were they looking for me too?
Do I owe some saint an offering?
Should I hug a tree or pet a stone in the forest?
Would the shamans have a better explanation than "You idiot, they were there all the time."

I put my shoes on. I got my jacket. I locked the door and walked to the subway all the time thinking that in LaPore's book there were mentions of spells and curses and chants. I was still shaking a little when the train finally arrived.

Joe(Was someone telling me not to go see the exhibit?)Nation
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 04:16 pm
I put things down, particularly in the shop at work and look right where I left objects without seeing them quite often. Trouble is, they are there all the time.

As a boy, my step father had me so traumatized that, after he moved out of our home and was not allowed back in, he took me and one of my brothers to the side and asked me if I wanted him to move back in. I could not hear a word he said, though I despearately feared the consequences if I did not. I made him repeat the question three times, but did not hear a sound that came from his lips. Finally I said, "I don't know," not having a clue. Later on, my brother told me what he said.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 04:27 pm
What a interesting evolutionary defense mechanism. Similar to that that I use with my spouse when I want to continue watching the movie, but in your case much more desperately needed. What a story. How old were you?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 04:34 pm
Fourteen.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 04:40 pm
Joe - that's a great story (of course your stories always are). Yours too, edgar.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 04:57 pm
I had a Studebaker Hawk when I was a kid. My dad bought it for me and said that it was gonna be a rare thing one day , and that I should keep it clean and maintained, which I did, religiously. It was a little 289 engine car with black and silver . It had a "poor mans Ferrari" look (Ok maybe a poor mans ugly Ferrari). Well, that part fo the story is of no interest because just a few months after he got me the car, I totalled it while drag racing some other idiot in a chevy. I was losing badly so I decided to pass and then smashed it up .

The funny thing was that my mom never left me forget how "Remember when you almost died in that car wreck" (I ddint almost die, I broke a collar bone on the steering wheel). My mom was a constant noodge about my driving skills and I never liked to drive with her in the car cause shed holler orders and exhale deep breaths of fearful anticipation so I wouldnt repeat the accident. If I ever drove over 45 with her in the car id get a "slow down, you wanna kill us?"

My dad died in the 80s and i 1998 my mom died in the hospital of cancer and , although my last few months with her were great times of love and lots of hugging and sharing stuff we never shared before, her death hit me really hard and I had to go back and live at her house for a few weeks after her funeral. My wife was understanding and cut me great slack about my cumulative guilt and loss.
She had an old brownstone that was 4 stories tall and as awide as an aircraft carrier. She had a lot of room and whenever we visited with the kids, it was probably the only noise of life the house had experienced in 20 years. One day, about 2 weeks after her funeralI was almost ready to leave and go back to my home and resume my life as an orphan, I sat down on the bottom step of the front parlor staircase and just quietly thumbed through a stack of photos that I was gonna keep. All of a sudden I hear this thump, thump, thump, thump ting , ting wawawawawawaa plop. Next to my feet lay this little brass cylinder that was the central :jewel" in a studebaker steering wheel. "Thanks mom, I said, I wondered where that got to"
It was the only piece left of the studebaker my dad bought me and I turned into a pile of scrap. My folks must have visited the junk dealer while I was in the hospital and taken a souveneir.
Believe it or not, this is a NO **** story. I dont believe in god or ghosts but I never saw this as anything but a manifestation of love that , like energy, merely changed form
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 05:01 pm
GOOD ONE, Farmerman!!
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 05:08 pm
Wow!
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 06:31 pm
Joe,
Is that an image of your glasses exactly as you found them? If so, then I think it would have been rather easy to overlook them, seeing as how they are camouflaged against the wires from the earphones. The wire frames kind of blend in with the wire from the phones. Your poor eyesight agugmented the concealment effect of your glasses by the earphones.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 06:31 pm
If not, then I'm stumped!
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 06:37 pm
I think it was Douglas Adams, in his book The Salmon of Doubt, who reasoned out why early man developed divinity.

The idea goes that man made tools, but didn't make the world. Since I make tools, someone like me must have made the world. Ok. It's a little thin. Either that, or DA explained hisself better.
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 06:38 pm
I've seen things, in my childhood, that I still cannot explain to this very day. Either I went temporarily insane, my brain somehow figured out how to 'manufacture' memories...or I actually saw something that most people would label a 'ghost'
I have no presuppositions as to what it was, but those experiences have left me convinced to this day, to paraphrase Dr E, that science, while the most useful thing humanity has, is still primitive and childlike in the grand scheme of things. There is much left to be explained.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 06:43 pm
I used to think I could breath under water. When I was young, learning to swim and taking lessons to get better at swimming, I had more than one occasion where I swear I took a breath of air underwater. My logical expanation was that I had air in my mouth which I inhaled.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 07:52 pm
The photo on the first page is close approximation of how they were when I found them, would pass the "recreation of an event" label.


Joe(still very strange)nation
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Eorl
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jan, 2006 06:13 pm
Joe, there seems to be plenty of anecdotal evidence that this is a link between this phenomenon and the Y chromosome.

My wife calls it "domestic blindness" or "having a boy look"
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Treya
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jan, 2006 11:54 pm
Law #13

Always... always remember...

You're here to have fun... so enjoy yourself!


see next thread for the continued conversation with myself...
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 05:00 am
I have another theory if anyone's interested. I believe that men are genetically inclined to see moving objects better than objects at rest. That would explain why we can see the underwear on the girls on MTV, but cannot see the underwear we've thrown onto the floor four days ago.
"What underwear??"

We can tell, before the replay, that the football receiver's foot was CLEARLY out of bounds, but we cannot locate the mustard in the refrigerator. (Oh, and yelling "It's on the door!!!" really isn't much help with so many bottles of low-fat salad dressings clustered there.)

It's also why we hate to shop. All those things just lying there.

Joe(this could be expanded on)Nation
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 06:05 am
But if spirits moved the glasses, they WERE moving.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 06:09 am
I have seen many spirits and moving stuff in my life, but not so many since I quit tripping.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 10:54 am
Maybe they were just concealed,

turned 90 degrees from everything.
(Ray Bradbury)
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