Lash wrote:dlowan wrote:
It is a tarbaby, Nimh......
But, it would be great if poor old tarbaby can be rehabilitated one day and be used again.
Meanwhile, just to prove that you aren't desperately seeking out an argument with me for the sake of unleashing your violent temper, I'm sure you'll want to tell dlowan what you think of using the word herself and then saying it would be great to rehabilitate the word.
Otherwise, well, you'd be shown as the hypocrite you are.
This is not going away.
Let's recap. She said: "But, it would be great if poor old tarbaby can be rehabilitated one day and be used again."
You made a rude comment to me for agreeing with her. I'm sure you want to show that you meant the sentiment and aren't just finding excuses to attack me personally.... Or this little exchange can stay here for future reference re your obsession with attacking me--and not saying a word when someone else does exactly the same thing.
If, as in the case of dlowan, people attacked her for using tarbaby, as was done to Romney, and she had no idea there was anything wrong with it--it is just wrong! There's no reason to look at Romney's or dlowan's use and try to make them feel bad about it.
When that happens, it bothers me.
Sorry to dlo, who is probably horrified that she features in my discussion, but she unintentionally provided the perfect example of an innocent use. Anyway, I'm not arguing the case--just sort of summarizing. I'm not trying to force minds to change
in the least, I'm just happy some people at least looked at the issue from another view. That is a great success, IMO.
It is easy to see both meant
sticky situation.
No one who is truthful would say either use had any type of racial connotation.
Yet, people became indignant purposefully. Those people are who I have a serious problem with. Their motives are to intentionally cause racial dissention--and use it as a political wedge for their own benefit.
It is much worse than saying tarbaby, IMO.
edgar-- I don't think it "brought hurt", I think that condemnation of that particular word, in this instance is nothing more than a conditioned, manipulative power play. But I understand and trust
your motives and I respect them.
I also think it is a negative because it weakens the
legitimate argument, when there actually IS a racially degrading remark that
should be criticised.
I don't want you to think I'd insist on using it. I did want to reiterate, I'd never refer to a person as a tarbaby. That is not the meaning I have of the word. I just wish the people who take false offense would stop, and save their indignation for a real offense.
snood--
Do you really think the words
shine and
boy are viewed by anyone as racial putdowns whenever they're used?
Spook does have more of a racial connotation--but
only when it refers to a black person. Do you really think insult everytime you see these words?? I don't even know how
shine CAN refer to a black person. It refers more to
moonshine when it's reduced to slang.
This thread was a great opportunity to ask questions about a PC issue in the news, and I'm very pleased with the responses. It yielded a much better understanding for me about how other people think re PC and this particular word, it did definitely show strong regional or local influences that make a huge difference, and I think a lot of people may have come away from this conversation with a bit of an increased understanding of PC or at least other people's feelings re same.
Lovely success. Too bad you missed it.
I hope the next PC issue raised in the news refers to some other group of people. We may get through the whole thing without such emotional rants.
, I found this post, wherein the word "tarbaby" was used.
