Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2006 08:54 pm
For classical sceptics, a dearth of arguments, or a clash of countervailing arguments, lead to peaceful suspension of belief, whereas in our own times it is seen more as a license for people to believe what they like. Perhaps this is a consequence of our general appetite for freedom and license. And there is a general impression that 'scepticism', like 'atheism', is a bad thing. Not having convictions is often bad form, unsociable or unpatriotic. 'Faith' is a word with a positive ring to it, although of course it rings really positively only when it means 'faith like ours' rather than the conflicting faiths of others.

Insincerity still bothers us: even a politician should not be caught saying what he does not believe. But as for what a person does believe, well that, we tend to think, is much more his or her own business. It is a morally important fault, we suppose, if politicians claim that some country has weapons of mass destruction when they know that it does not, or if NASA says that a shuttle is safe when it knows it is far from it. But it is not a morally important fault if they believe the same thing although all the evidence points against it. How we weigh evidence, like religion, tends to be regarded as a private affair. Perhaps it does not matter if a thousand flowers bloom, or if we are none too good at distinguishing weeds from flowers. Perhaps our situation is like that of Rome as described by Gibbon: 'The various modes of worship, which prevailed in the Roman world, were all considered by the people, as equally true; by the philosopher, as equally false; and by the magistrate as equally useful.' But is it really the cranky, oversensitive philosopher who spoils the party?

William Clifford was a nineteenth-century Cambridge mathematician and polymath, who partly anticipated Einstein by claiming that mass and energy are each perturbations in space-time. He also has an algebra named after him. He is remembered in philosophy mainly for one classic essay, 'The Ethics of Belief', and that in turn is famous because of the reply to it given by the American philosopher William James. Their dispute may appear to have a dated air about it, defining as it does the state of late-Victorian anxiety specifically about religious faith. But philosophically the issues it raises go deeper than that. They concern not only the right to belief, but also the nature of belief, and my aim is not so much to judge the debate about anyone's right to conviction, as to follow it into deeper waters. The philosophy of religion is here only an introductory taster, or a laboratory example, of a wider perplexity.

In his essay Clifford argues that there is a duty to believe carefully, in the light of reason alone. He begins with a story nicely designed to induce a sense of outrage:

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A shipowner was about to send to sea an emigrant-ship. He knew that she was old, and not overwell built at the first; that she had seen many seas and climes, and often had needed repairs. Doubts had been suggested to him that possibly she was not seaworthy. These doubts preyed upon his mind, and made him unhappy; he thought that perhaps he ought to have her thoroughly overhauled and refitted, even though this should put him at great expense. Before the ship sailed, however, he succeeded in overcoming these melancholy reflections. He said to himself that she had gone safely through so many voyages and weathered so many storms that it was idle to suppose she would not come safely home from this trip also. He would put his trust in Providence, which could hardly fail to protect all these unhappy families that were leaving their fatherland to seek for better times elsewhere. He would dismiss from his mind all ungenerous suspicions about the honesty of builders and contractors. In such ways he acquired a sincere and comfortable conviction that his vessel was thoroughly safe and seaworthy; he watched her departure with a light heart, and benevolent wishes for the success of the exiles in their strange new home that was to be; and he got his insurance-money when she went down in mid-ocean and told no tales.


Clifford is surely right that we censure the negligent shipowner. We would find his 'faith' in his ship discreditable, even though Clifford is careful to tell us that it is sincere. About this Clifford comments that:

William Clifford wrote:
The sincerity of his conviction can in no wise help him; because he had no right to believe on such evidence as was before him. He had acquired his belief not by honestly earning it in patient investigation, but by stifling his doubts.


In a marvelous passage Clifford enlarges on the danger of ignoring our duty to reason:

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He who truly believes that which prompts him to an action has looked upon the action to lust after it; he has committed it already in his heart. If a belief is not realized immediately in open deeds, it is stored up for the guidance of the future. It goes to make a part of that aggregate of beliefs which is the link between sensation and action at every moment of all our lives, and which is so organized and compacted together that no part of it can be isolated from the rest, but every new addition modifies the structure of the whole. No real belief, however trifling and fragmentary it may seem, is ever truly insignificant; it prepares us to receive more of its like, confirms those which resembled it before, and weakens others; and so gradually it lays a stealthy train in our inmost thoughts, which may someday explode into overt action.


A train, here, is a train of explosive leading from a detonator to a mine. And of course, Clifford is right. Someone sitting on a completely unreasonable belief is sitting on a time bomb. The apparently harmless, idiosyncratic belief of the Catholic Church that one thing may have the substance of another, although it displays absolutely none of its empirical qualities, prepares people for the view that some people are agents of Satan in disguise, which in turn makes it reasonable to destroy them. Clifford also emphasizes our social duty. Our beliefs help to create the world in which our descendants will live. Making ourselves gullible or credulous, we lose the habit of testing things and inquiring into them, and that means 'sinking back into savagery'.

Clifford is admirably stern about the position of the untouched, unclouded innocent who just believes what he has been told:

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If a man, holding a belief which he was taught in childhood or persuaded of afterwards, keeps down and pushes away any doubts which arise about it in his mind, purposely avoids the reading of books and company of men that call into question or discuss it, and regards as impious these questions which cannot easily be asked without disturbing it -- the life of that man is one long sin against mankind.


Thus apologists for religious identity politics sometimes describe themselves as having been born one thing or another: born a Muslim, or a Hindu, or a Jew. According to Clifford this is false consciousness. People are born human beings, nothing else. They may have been taught to regard themselves as one thing or another, and they may have been taught as well the doctrines and attitudes of particular traditions. But if they choose to go on refusing to question what they have been told, and if, as is so commonly the case, what they have been told is incredible or pernicious, then their continued adherence is, in Clifford's eyes, a sin against mankind.

That's all very well, but what then is the mark of reason? How are we to tell whether particular convictions escape Clifford's rather strenuous call to doubt and query? Are we, like the Greek sceptics, to regard all questions as open questions? That way (as Clifford acknowledges) lies paralysis. Even to conduct the inquiries that Clifford demands, we will have to stand somewhere. To try to unearth historical or metaphysical or other error, we will need to take many things for granted.

Clifford sees the problem, and answers it in terms of method rather than in terms of results:

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In regard, then, to the sacred tradition of humanity, we learn that it consists, not in propositions or statements which are to be accepted and believed on the authority of the tradition, but in questions rightly asked, in conceptions which enable us to ask further questions, and in methods of answering questions. The value of all these things depends on their being tested day by day.
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2006 09:02 pm
I define faith as intellectual sloth.
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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2006 09:04 pm
Doktor S wrote:
I define faith as intellectual sloth.


An active sloth though, in my opinion.
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2006 09:06 pm
How so?
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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2006 09:08 pm
Are we talking about three toed sloths or ten toed ?
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2006 09:22 pm
I was shooting more for # Aversion to work or exertion; laziness; indolence. ,
or
1: a disinclination to work or exert yourself


^taken from dictionary.com
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Eorl
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2006 09:33 pm
Doktor S, I think that apllies to most but not all those who have faith.

Some apply great energy and intellect to faith and despite questioning, faith remains (I can't see how and I'm sure you can't either, but I'm sure it happens)
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2006 09:38 pm
If faith remains it is because they are insufficient .
Faith is a cop out.
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2006 09:40 pm
Just to clarify, I am refering to 'faith' in the context of 'belief without evidence', before any of you apologist types start equivocating....
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Eorl
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2006 09:49 pm
Rather than being an apologist, I just have a tendency to disregard any blanket definition as likely to be wrong and start looking for exceptions.

It's my nature to question every proposition, even from my own side of the fence.
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aidan
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 04:33 am
Doktor S wrote:
Just to clarify, I am refering to 'faith' in the context of 'belief without evidence', before any of you apologist types start equivocating....


Interesting- having read the definition of faith as "belief without evidence" - which I accept as the most commonly accepted definition of faith - I think it has been defined incorrectly- or maybe I'm just realizing that what I always thought was "faith" in my own experience hasn't really been faith at all.

I thought that I had "faith" in the validity of certain facts or beliefs that I've adopted, or in people I've known - but it's only come after some sort of evidence that it is meaningful to me in some way that has convinced me I can believe in or rely upon what has been presented to me as truth.

I guess I thought that if the evidence was not measurable or scientifically and/or factually quanitifiable, my acceptance and/or belief would constitute "faith". But it seems from this definition of faith - belief is not accompanied by any evidence at all. If that's true - I don't see how anyone could have "faith" in anything. (But I also don't accept that this is what people typically define as "faith"- usually there has to be at least some sort of feeling that people accept as evidence that something is right or true or real enough to be believed in).
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 10:31 am
Paul defines faith as the '. . .evident demonstration of realities, though not beheld. . .' (Hebrews 11:1) This implies more than credulity.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 10:35 am
aidan- There is a form of faith that is NOT irrational. That is when you use the word to describe faith based on a track record. It is the faith that could be interchanged with the word, "confidence", the confidence borne out of prior experience.

If a bus that you take stops at a certain corner, and you have taken that bus for awhile, you have "faith" that tomorrow the bus will stop at the same corner. That is not the same as having faith that is divorced from any experience, logic, or rationality.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 10:40 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
aidan- There is a form of faith that is NOT irrational. That is when you use the word to describe faith based on a track record. It is the faith that could be interchanged with the word, "confidence", the confidence borne out of prior experience.

If a bus that you take stops at a certain corner, and you have taken that bus for awhile, you have "faith" that tomorrow the bus will stop at the same corner. That is not the same as having faith that is divorced from any experience, logic, or rationality.
Yeah, what you said.

Only more, perhaps.
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