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Fri 6 Jan, 2006 03:50 pm
Quote:Mo. Lawmaker Seeks to Ban Cold Beer Sales
By CHRIS BLANK
Associated Press Writer
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) -- A state senator wants to force Missouri stores to sell warm beer. Under a bill by Sen. Bill Alter, grocery and convenience stores would risk losing their liquor licenses if they sold beer colder than 60 degrees. The intent is to cut down on drunken driving by making it less tempting to pop open a beer after leaving the store.
"The only reason why beer would need to be cold is so that it can be consumed right away," Alter, who has been a police offer for more than 20 years, said Thursday.
He said the idea came from a fifth-grade student in Jefferson County who was participating in a program to teach elementary students about state government. He sought their suggestions for new laws and chose the cold beer ban from a list of the top three ideas.
"I thought it had the best chance at getting legislative attention," said Alter, R-High Ridge. "Plus, I think it's a good idea whether or not other people do."
Some lawmakers and lobbyists, however, are lukewarm about the idea.
Ron Leone, executive vice president for the Missouri Petroleum Marketers and Convenience Store Association, said the combination of Missouri's drinking and driving laws and designated driver programs already have curbed the number of people who drink and drive.
"It would be an inconvenience for law-abiding citizens who want to purchase cold beer for picnics, parties and social gatherings," he said. "People who want to drive drunk will drive drunk anyway."
Leone said he didn't know if there was a standard temperature at which beer is sold, but added that most refrigerators are set in the mid-to-low 40s.
Alter said the student who suggested the legislation would be a witness at the bill's hearing, which hasn't been scheduled.
Last year, a fourth-grade class from Kansas City submitted a proposal to make the American bullfrog the state amphibian. It passed in the final moments of the 2005 legislative session.
Alter said the jump from naming state animals to restricting how alcohol can be purchased didn't really surprise him.
"You never know what's on the mind of young kids - some of them are pretty smart," he said.
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I'm all for anything that reduces drinking and driving.
I don't think this will do it. People will just buy mixers and hit the hard stuff while their beer cools off.
Keeping beer warm is not the way to store it properly. Unless Sen. Alter wants to keep people from drinking it at all by turning it skunky, this is a bad idea.
Because they'll turn to hard booze, which doesn't need refrigeration!
I used to be an Alcholic. This kinda will work. Men are like cavemen.
"Beer cold. Me like cold beer. me drink beer."
Sell warm beer? They been trying it in England for centuries. Doesnt work (obviously)
nimh wrote:Sell warm beer? They been trying it in England for centuries. Doesnt work (obviously)
Have you tasted American beer warm. It's like drinking....... I won't say it.
I remember from the time of my childhood that seniors used such a "beer heater" here:
(Was filled with warm water and hung in the glass.)
When I first moved to NC, I was surprised to learn I couldn't order beer with my pizza at a pizza hut in the mountains.
When I took my NC drivers test, the majority of the questions were about the number of drinks one could have and still be okay to drive, or percentage of alcohol in different beverages, etc. Couldn't figure out why I needed to know that if I'm not supposed to drink and drive.
Then, on the way to a byob employee party a few months later, I stopped at the convenience store and learned I could buy just one cold beer from the fridge. An officer was at the counter. I asked if I could buy just one. He said, "Well, yeah." (Duh, I thought I would have to buy a six pack.) He said he'd rather I just drink one than six. We laughed. I left.
States can come up with the silliest, contradictary laws.
Amigo wrote:nimh wrote:Sell warm beer? They been trying it in England for centuries. Doesnt work (obviously)
Have you tasted American beer warm. It's like drinking....... I won't say it.
Amigo is correct. Warm American beer is swill. Well, most cold American beer is swill, too, but this isn't the thread for that tirade...
Ironically, southeast Missouri has long been a significant beer brewing region because of the many caves. Quite a few Germans settled there after '48, and brewing was big business in the days before refrigeration because the deep caves have constant temperatures in the range of 40 to 50 degrees Flobbelgizzard.
Griesedieck Beer and Anheuser-Busch were the only brewers to survive prohibition, however. Griesedieck once had the rights to serve beer at all the St. Louis Cardinals home games, which gave A-B fits, since they were trying to buy up all the sports promos in the area.
Augie Busch married the daughter of Anheuser, and pappy sent him to the brewery just to keep him out of the way--he didn't think Augie had anything to offer. But Augie came up with Budweiser and the slogan "The King of Beers," which sold big time with German-Americans. In Budweis, in Bohemia, beer was long brewed for royal courts in Europe, and their slogan was "The Beer of Kings." Augie was canny, and made Anheuser's brewery far more succesful than pappy ever dreamed.
Walter Hinteler wrote:I remember from the time of my childhood that seniors used such a "beer heater" here:
(Was filled with warm water and hung in the glass.)
A beer heater? Now this is a true testament to the deference in culture.
Hey, I like my American swill ?!?! I just like it cold. Cold swill good. Warm swill bad.
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