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OMG!: Veteran broadcaster's remains 'stolen' for transplants

 
 
shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 04:43 pm
hmmm Confused

I still hold my doubts
but im sure its possible...
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 04:48 pm
I can understand you might find it hard to believe, shewolf. This is hardly the type of thing one would expect to happen in NYC in the 21st century! Confused
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 04:49 pm
Quote:
December 23, 2005

Report: Alistair Cooke's bones stolen from funeral home

By TOM HAYS

NEW YORK (CP) - Michael Bruno's life had been uncomplicated: He was an immigrant who worked hard, spoke his mind and succumbed to kidney cancer two years ago at 75.

"Typical Italian cab driver," recalled his son, Vito. "He had an opinion about everything."

It's only after death that his story became ghoulish.

Authorities believe his body and those of hundreds of other people, including famed British broadcaster Alistair Cooke, were secretly carved up in the back rooms of several funeral parlours citywide to remove human bone, skin and tendons without required permission from their families. Authorities allege the body parts were then sold for a profit.

Some of the tissue may have even ended up in Canada.

Worse, health officials fear some of the stolen body parts were diseased, and could infect patients who received them in skin grafts, dental implants or other orthopedic procedures, a risk concealed by paperwork doctored with forged signatures and false information.

"It's not just disrespectful to my father," said Vito Bruno, who has sued one of the funeral homes. "It's an absolutely hideous crime against other people."

In the Cooke case, authorities confirmed this week that investigators contacted the late broadcaster's family after finding paperwork indicating his bones had been removed and sold by a Fort Lee, N.J., tissue bank, Biomedical Tissue Services, before he was cremated. Cooke, best known as the host of PBS's Masterpiece Theatre, died from cancer last year at 95 in Manhattan.

The family insists it never signed off on the procedure, and that someone had falsified documents by changing his cause of death to heart attack, and by lowering his age to 85. Harvesting bones from cancer patients violates rules by the Food and Drug Administration.

A daughter, Susan Cooke Kittredge, said the family was "shocked and saddened" by the news.

"That people in need would have received his body parts, considering his age and the fact he was ill when he died, is appalling to the family, as is that his remains were violated," she said.

The probe, first reported by the Daily News in October, has uncovered other gruesome images. In one instance, the corpse of a Queens grandmother that investigators exhumed last month had nearly all the bones removed below the waist and replaced with PVC pipes.

A state grand jury in Brooklyn has been hearing evidence against at least a half dozen funeral homes in the borough and against Biomedical Tissue Services. Authorities allege that they illegally profited by conspiring to sell stolen body parts, and say indictments could be handed up early next year.

The brewing scandal's reach extends far beyond the New York City area.

In the fall, the FDA ordered a recall of products produced by tissue processors in New Jersey, Florida, Georgia and Texas, all customers of Biomedical Tissue Services. Since the announcement, authorities in Canada have determined that about 300 potentially tainted products were imported there, and used for dental surgery on at least two patients.

Health officials, including Health Canada, advised physicians that patients who were implanted with the tissue should be tested for HIV, hepatitis and other infectious diseases. The officials said they believed the health hazards were minimal, and no infections have been reported in Canada or the United States since the FDA warning.

But past cases have demonstrated dire risks.

In 2001, a Minnesota man died after a knee surgery from an infection caused by a bacterium traced to cartilage from an infected donor. A year later, health officials in Oregon announced that several patients were infected with hepatitis C after receiving donated organs and tissue from a single corpse.

Authorities say the Brooklyn case stems from a deal struck between a dentist who started Biomedical Tissue Services, Michael Mastromarino, 42, of Fort Lee, and Joseph Nicelli, 49, an embalmer and funeral parlour operator from Staten Island.

Investigators suspect Nicelli helped secure access to tissue and bones from funeral directors for $500 to $1,000 US a body. Mastromarino allegedly would remove the body parts, then ship them to processors paying thousands of dollars per order.

Lawyers for Nicelli and Mastromarino did not respond to numerous phone messages left by The Associated Press, but have previously denied that their clients did anything wrong. A phone number listed for Biomedical Tissue Services was disconnected.

The Brooklyn case demonstrates the potential pitfalls of allowing funeral homes and tissue banks to do business without stricter oversight, said Annie Cheney, author of the upcoming book Body Brokers: Inside America's Underground Trade in Human Remains.

"The fact that these people were supposedly able to get away with this for so long is shocking," she said.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 04:54 pm
That's absolutely shocking, Walter! OMG! Shocked
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 05:09 pm
not shocking really.

I heard of a woman whose husband died and she had him prepared for a viewing. Just before the viewing she came to see the work that the undertsker had done and was shocked.

A Brown suit!! she said
"My husband would never wear a brown suit"

Wait hear , the undertaker said and he went back and made the changes and returned in less than 5 minutes with her husband in a beautiful black suit and red tie.
"Why thats wonderful" she said "How did you change his clothing so quickly?"

"I didnt change his clothes I just switched heads"

Deboning is very easy skill to acquire, I worked as a butcher in a meat plant years ago and I did deboning of loin roasts, same thing really
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 05:27 pm
farmerman wrote:
"I didnt change his clothes I just switched heads.



Shocked Oh my goodness, famerman!




I shouldn't laugh. This is very serious, I know, but .....



Laughing
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Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 06:17 pm
Re: OMG!: Veteran broadcaster's remains 'stolen' for transpl
DrewDad wrote:
Reyn wrote:
I just can't understand how Reyn could have missed a juicy, bizarre story like this!

I have to blame it on pre-occupation of my upcoming retirement.

Sorry, I promise to do better.

It's good to have a post-retirement purpose....

Yes, indeed! It will be one of my goals in life.....seriously! :wink:
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 06:36 pm
msolga wrote:
I can understand you might find it hard to believe, shewolf. This is hardly the type of thing one would expect to happen in NYC in the 21st century! Confused


not only that, it really bothers my sense of ethics.
Makes me wonder HOW someone can steal parts of someone elses body
and sell them.. Mad
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 06:43 pm
oh my god.
that article made me cringe Walter.
I cant believe ( well.. unfortunatly i CAN ) that people do that.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 06:43 pm
Say nothing of diseased body parts! Shocked
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 06:47 pm
yeah.

they sell these parts knowing they will kill someone else.

I guess that is the way to keep thier business goin huh..

HA Mad
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 07:41 pm
The thing is, this wouldn't be an issue right now if it hadn't happened to Alistair Cooke & his family hadn't gone public. But it makes me wonder: How widespread is this sort of practice? Whose behind it? Who buys the body parts? (Looks like a potentially big money spinner to me!) How do hospitals acquire their body parts for transplants? What sort of checks are made on the health of the body parts before transplants? Etc, etc, etc ... a good investigative journalist could have a field day! So could lawyers, too, by the sounds of the sloppiness of check and balances applied before transplants. And unauthorized removal of body parts from the dead. A mindboggling can of worms here!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 08:48 pm
Hmmmm...big drama been on right here about that one> " unauthorized removal of body parts from the dead" <

Turns out the Childrens' Hospital here made a practice of doing that in years gone past...a brain here, a liver there. They weren't transplanted!!! They were kept as samples for research and teaching...but, then, permission was NOT asked.


Now, frankly, to me a bead dody is so much meat...I don't give a brass razoo (I just bet my sister's lungs and pancreas and such are in jars in there right now, and I do not feel distressed etc) but lots of folk DO, and there have been suings and great drama and such.

I suspect lots of hospitals did that in days of yore...



Now, that is a very different thing from rifling body parts for which one is paid a fortune, and making people sick with them, of course!!!

But..I do think a lot goes on around death of which we know little.





Sometimes I wonder about the level of our death denial and such. This all begins to seem like the film "Brazil".


I was thinking of opening a thread about it, in fact....I was pondering on that thing that went around the net about hiccoughing or some damn thing to keep yourself alive if you had a cardiac arrest!!!! Have these people ever SEEN a cardiac arrest? Pfffft, idiots.


Some day we are going to die.....all the pilfered bones and organs and face lifts and botox and stuff isn't gonna stop it, nor is eating macrobiotic food and taking megavitamins, torturing and slaughtering endangered animals, affirmations, positive thinking and all the rest of it.

Now, it seems, we have the rich preying on charnel houses and the poor to eke out a few more years.

Well, the poor bastid who is, presumably, gonna get bone cancer from poor Alistair may find it a poor bargain.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 09:28 pm
dlowan wrote:


I was thinking of opening a thread about it, in fact....I was pondering on that thing that went around the net about hiccoughing or some damn thing to keep yourself alive if you had a cardiac arrest!!!! Have these people ever SEEN a cardiac arrest? Pfffft, idiots..


The company Bayer, had a commercial here in america not too many years ago that implied taking thier product would save your life in the event of a heart attack.

Yes, aspirin CAN help... but I felt that commercial eluded to the imortal fantasy people have .

dlowan wrote:


Some day we are going to die.....all the pilfered bones and organs and face lifts and botox and stuff isn't gonna stop it, nor is eating macrobiotic food and taking megavitamins, torturing and slaughtering endangered animals, affirmations, positive thinking and all the rest of it.


here here.

I have always been of the idea that, if you need my organs.. when I die... have 'em. My heart doesnt contain me. Nor did my lungs, bones, skin, eyes.. etc.
At the time of death , all the body's job, so to speak, is to decompose.

Preservation, embalming, freezing and such aint gonna stop that either.
After someone has died, the body is meaningless.

Some people have a morbid facination with death that triggers a strange plane of denial.

Frankly, we will never know anything of death in my opinion. Simply because noone has lived to tell about it.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 09:42 pm
Not talking about aspirin!!!!

There was a thing that "showed" you how to do "internal cardiac massage" (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) if you were arresting, so you "could drive yourself to the hospital" Some sort of hiccupping or something!



Interestingly, death denial would seem to be one of the reasons organsd are hard to get, fuelling this obscene trade.

Many people seem either too loath to face their death enough to decide, or think it will jinx them or something.


I am all signed up. They can harvest me like a field of corn if they like, and if the bits and bobs are worth anything.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 10:16 pm
Would like to sign up for the cash advance too while im at it.. lol



I know you werent talking about things like taking asprin.
I was just pointing out how many things tell you as the commercial audience that " YOU TOO CAN STAY ALIVE BY DOING this this and this"... all for only 3 payments of 19.95! Laughing
its sad really.


coughing? to kick start the heart?
I would be interested in seeing that clip..
strange indeed
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 11:35 pm
Well, aspirin is a blood thinner, and is actually prescribed because it works.


We're still gonna die, though.

Probably from kidney failure from the aspirin....



Personally, I believe I shall never die as long as I am shopping.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2005 12:35 am
This thread brings to mind a book I read a few years back, concerning the resurrectionist trade during Dicken's time in London. The book was based on a true story. Dickens was actually a young court reporter during the case. It was a fascinating book and really gave one some excellent insight into the London of those times, but, for the life of me, I can not remember the name of that book. It was something like "The London Child" Absolutely not that title, but the title referred to the child who was murdered.

Anyone?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2005 12:44 am
I found it. This is a hell of a good book and I highly recommend it to anyone interested in the dawn of the resurrectionist trade.

The Italian Boy
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2005 01:03 am
Oh, I looked at that one in bookshops a few times, good eh?
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