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Is a pound of feathers heavier than a pound of lead?

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2005 08:58 pm
Er...now I haven't followed this question, to be sure...but how would the answer change whether it be gold or lead of which we have a pound, or which type of feather?

Please tell me you are all funning!
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g day
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2005 09:00 pm
No,

Q. What is heavier a pound of gold or a pound of feathers?
A. Feathers of course.

Q. What is heavier a pound of gold or a pound of lead?
A. Lead but not sure if this has always been so - I'd guess it was true.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2005 09:01 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
The suspence is killing me.


Don't you mean "shilling me"?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2005 09:03 pm
Aaaaarggghhhhh.....
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g day
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2005 09:05 pm
I'd have to reach for my history book to check on the availability of lead to answer does the question I wrote change over time rather than measure gold vs feathers which has a consistent answer over time.

I suspect the answer may not change over time but in the past it might have not been the case. I think lead was always fairly common so I suspect their weights have always been equal.

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Hate killing a good question.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2005 09:14 pm
Only the good die young....
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g day
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2005 09:17 pm
Smile Only now I probably have people searching asking why is a pound of gold lighter than a pound of feathers - still the search for knowledge is often beneficial.

Still try it on your friends and see how many say gold or they're both the same rather than know it's feathers.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2005 09:47 pm
A pound of pot is way heavier than either feathers or lead..... uh...what was the question again?
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2005 09:52 pm
g_day,
I can only assume you are now funning with us.

A pound of feathers weighs one pound.
A pound of gold weighs one pound
A pound of lead weighs one pound.

If a something weighs more or less than a pound of feathers than it isn't a pound.

A pound of pot is worth its weight in gold. Maybe I should check gold futures before I say that though. (Pot doesn't stick around long enough to have a future.)
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g day
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2005 10:11 pm
No, deadly serious.

Gold is a precious metal - lead no longer is (if ever) so gold is lighter.

Pounds is a complex system, if you are weighing a precious metal in pounds you of course use Troy pounds and ounces. If you are weighing a common substance you use Anduvian pounds annd ounces. Anduvian pounds and ounces weigh more than Troy pounds and ounces. So a pound of gold weights significantly less than a pound of sand, water or feathers!

So if they taught you different in school well they're wrong!

Learn something every day huh?
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2005 10:37 pm
Methinks someone already knows what a pound of pot is worth.


Fancy a cookie, old boy?
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g day
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 06:58 am
POT as in Prefered Oriental Tea huh?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 08:34 am
parados wrote:
A pound of pot is worth its weight in gold. Maybe I should check gold futures before I say that though. (Pot doesn't stick around long enough to have a future.)


High quality reefer, purchased by the quarter ounce, runs at least the price of gold--if not more.
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fresco
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 09:25 am
Google doesn't like "Anduvian".

1 troy oz = 480 grains
1 troy lb = 5760 grains
1 oz avoirdupois = 437.5 grains
1 lb avoirdupois = 7000 grains


There is an old joke "Which is heavier, a pound of lead or a pound of feathers?" Of course, they weigh the same. But if you said "Which is heavier, a ounce of gold or a ounce of feathers?", then you could claim that the gold is measured in troy and the feathers in avoirdupois, and so the gold is indeed heavier. But a troy pound of gold is lighter than a pound (avoirdupois) of feathers!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 09:34 am
I was always amused by "avoirdupois," which, in French, means "to have weight." Not a very specific concept.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 09:40 am
Since 1875 a 'pound' is a 'pound' all over here, for everything.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 09:49 am
It is hilarious that many Canadians tout the metric system and their dedicated converstion thereto--yet butter is still sold by the pound, if you go to the deli counter and ask for a pound of ham they will weigh out 455 grams for you in the twinkling of an eye, and liquids are sold in four liter jugs--mirroring the use of the gallon.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 09:51 am
Why the metric system didn't use base 12 is a mystery to me.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 10:06 am
DrewDad wrote:
Why the metric system didn't use base 12 is a mystery to me.


Because it's a decimal system and not duodecimal :wink:

A chronology of the metric system

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A pound of ham is between 480 and 499 grams here, depends, where you buy it Laughing
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g day
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2005 03:43 pm
Actually Walter the Troy system is still used for precious metals, gold, silver, platinium, palladium, rhodium, iridium, osmium and ruthenium etc... Mention any of these metals (and in the past Aluminium too - at one stage it was more expensive than gold until folk worked out how to extract it - it was exhibited in large museums!) and you automatically default to Troy pounds and Troy ounces. Anything else and its the other system that took over from Tower weights around the time frame you mentioned.

The trouble with the Imperial system - especially for weights is it is so archaic. Example - how many cloves, feathers, tolas or slugs do you weight?

Here are some other unusual weights and measures

London pound of 7200 grains = 15 troy ounces.
Merchants pound of 6750 grains, in use from about 1270 to 1330.
Another merchants pound of 7200 grains, used fo a brief period.
Wool pound of 6992 grains.
Clove which was 7 avoirdupois pounds
Stone which was 14 avoirdupois pounds.
Quarter which was 28 pounds, or a quarter of a hundredweight.
A tod which was equivalent to a quarter,
A hundredweight (abbreviated to cwt) which was 112 pounds.
Butcher's stone of 8 pounds.
Sack which was 364 pounds.
Apothecaries weights in which an ounce was 480 grains as for troy measure, but with 8 drams or drachms per ounce, therefore a drachm was 60 grains. There were 3 scruples per drachm
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