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'Gay weddings' become law in UK

 
 
Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 12:12 pm
Hundreds of gay couples are preparing to form civil partnerships in the coming weeks as the law changes after decades of campaigning.
At least 1,200 ceremonies are confirmed as being scheduled already, according to figures from councils compiled by the BBC News website.

Registrars are preparing for the first ceremonies, with couples permitted to register from Monday morning.

Campaigners says the law ends inequalities for same-sex couples.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4493094.stm


Doesn't this move make a mockery of marriage between heterosexual men & women

I imagine God will be turning in his grave, if he needs one
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 12:20 pm
Think of the business this will generate . . . speaking of registries, have the bridal registries seen an upturn in business, and how do you know which one is the bride?
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oldandknew
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 12:25 pm
a bit like pin the tail on the donkey
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Letty
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 12:36 pm
I really don't care, John Oak:

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2004/11/04/mn_contrast03_037kw.jpg
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cyphercat
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 02:02 pm
I've never understood the idea that gay marriage makes a mockery of traditional marriage. I've known a lot of married people that made a mockery of their own marriage all by themselves, though.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 02:16 pm
Re: 'Gay weddings' become law in UK
oldandknew wrote:
Doesn't this move make a mockery of marriage between heterosexual men & women

No.

oldandknew wrote:
I imagine God will be turning in his grave, if he needs one

A take on Nietzsche I've never considered before.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 02:29 pm
Yay again!!!! Well done UK.
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KiwiChic
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:20 pm
We have civil unions here between same gender couples... its not a 'Marriage' but it gives the couple the same legal rights as a married couple...IMO I dont think its harmful to anyone else, it just protects their
rights...and anyway its their own business.
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oldandknew
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:32 pm
So a case of business as usual. Each to his own.
The All Blacks keep winning
The sun still rises
And rock & roll is still loud
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:33 pm
If it ain't, it ain't rock and roll . . .
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:44 pm
they are not actually marriages or wedding ceremonies. They are legally "civil partnerships", which just gives the partners the same legal rights, property, pension etc etc as pertains to couples who are married. Gays cant get hitched in church. The deed is done by signature, not as in a marriage a verbal vow, later confirmed by signature. Gets a bit complicated after that but was trying to take in the legal niceties this morning so thought I would try and enlighten all.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:46 pm
Arrr...thankee.

Good first step, then.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:51 pm
I dont see anything wrong with it. For many couples its only regularising a state of affairs that has gone on for a long time. Although I heard it all this morning on the radio. Everything from homosexual men will demand rights to adopt boys. To the usual end of the world as we know it etc. I couldnt give a stuff really.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:54 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
they are not actually marriages or wedding ceremonies. They are legally "civil partnerships", which just gives the partners the same legal rights, property, pension etc etc as pertains to couples who are married. Gays cant get hitched in church. The deed is done by signature, not as in a marriage a verbal vow, later confirmed by signature. Gets a bit complicated after that but was trying to take in the legal niceties this morning so thought I would try and enlighten all.


Can anyone else there get married in church only?
Here, the church wedding isn't legal in and of itself.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:54 pm
The majority of European countries already had 'civil partnership' since some time.

The UK is one of the last undertaking this step.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 04:01 pm
ehBeth wrote:
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
they are not actually marriages or wedding ceremonies. They are legally "civil partnerships", which just gives the partners the same legal rights, property, pension etc etc as pertains to couples who are married. Gays cant get hitched in church. The deed is done by signature, not as in a marriage a verbal vow, later confirmed by signature. Gets a bit complicated after that but was trying to take in the legal niceties this morning so thought I would try and enlighten all.


Can anyone else there get married in church only?
Here, the church wedding isn't legal in and of itself.


slight mis understanding, probably my fault

the wedding ceremony takes place in the Church. Immediately after the ceremony the happy couple go into a side room (vestry) in the church and sign the register which completes the legal side of things. If they dont do that they might be married in the eyes of God, but He doesnt adjust their tax pay code.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 04:02 pm
So they can either have a civil wedding, or a church wedding followed by civil documents being signed to make it legal?

In which case, it's a good step.

Almost catching up with South Africa there.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 04:05 pm
ehBeth wrote:
So they can either have a civil wedding, or a church wedding followed by civil documents being signed to make it legal?


yes if its between hetrosexuals. For homosexuals the new civil partnership arrangement does not provide for a church wedding.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 04:07 pm
cyphercat wrote:
I've never understood the idea that gay marriage makes a mockery of traditional marriage. I've known a lot of married people that made a mockery of their own marriage all by themselves, though.


Ramen.

Meanwhile, I thought the title meant that everyone had to get married to someone of the same sex, regardless of sexual orientation... :-D
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 04:07 pm
Some evangelical churches here in Germany make 'consecrations'/'blessings' for gay couples - which means nothing, since church weddings are nothing more than an old tradition. (But this is not a church wedding, though!)

(And, opposite to the UK, you can't get a church wedding in Germany when not married at the registry office - which gays can't; only civil union.)
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