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Wed 30 Nov, 2005 12:12 pm
Some might say that all of the weather problems around the world are sent from God as a punishment to mankind for all the trouble he has caused the planet. They might say that mankind has an evil side which is balanced by the wrath of God in the form or tsunami's, torrential flooding and even blistering heat. If this is true then why does God only punish certain parts of the world? Every country has its evils. Every country has non believers and criminals. Is God picky? Is a European non-believer better than an African non believer? Does an Indian criminal deserve punishment more than an Australian criminal? Is the evil in Thailand eviler than the evil in any country? I put it to you that "If there is a God", and "If he punishes us for our sins" then he is racists. I put it to you that he favours certain races over others and that certain races who commit just as many sins as other races get off lightly.
Care to prove me wrong? Or care to prove me right?
Please add your views.
Regards
Ping
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I do not believe in God, but I was having a chat with a strange fellow who was convinced that The recent weather problems were punishment from God. The idea of this thread is to see if there are anymore people who agree with this man's thoughts. It's a very interesting discussion topic.
Thanks for the welcome. This looks like a great forum.
Peace
Ping
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Hi ping;
Welcome to the board.
Our weather problems might be a consequence of our sins rather than a punishment. As such, they would not necessarily be visited on the deserving sinners.
I visited your website before your link was removed by the moderators. You have much talent.
Enjoy.
Elaborate on "consequence of our sins"
peace
Ping
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Thanks for the compliment by the way....
Ping
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ping wrote:Elaborate on "consequence of our sins"
peace
Ping
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If someone contracts AIDS from an infected needle, that is a consequence. Whether we believe it a sin or not, we have no right to call it a punishment.
If our ecological mismanagement causes weather calamity, that too would be a consequence.
BTW, you may post your websites in your profile. :wink:
neologist
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"""""""If someone contracts AIDS from an infected needle, that is a consequence. Whether we believe it a sin or not, we have no right to call it a punishment. """""""""""
What is AIDS a consequence of? is it the result of something wrong? or is it just an illness that is part of evolution?
Ping
Quote:Sins? Who is the arbiter of what is a sin? Who is to say that the concept of "sin" has any validity at all? Every culture has its own parameters of what constitutes unacceptable behavior.
Do you mean that some countries get off lightly because they have handed in some kind of sin application form to God? They got to tick the worst sins in their country. so pick-pocketing in New Orleans is worse than Murder is England?
Ping
Remove, for a moment, the theological or moral implications of the word sin. Perhaps we should use the word error.
Regarding the error of drug abuse, there may be consequences. Those consequences may extend beyond ourselves to our family, our community, even our unborn children. We do not have the right to call them punishments from God.
I've purposely refrained from responding to your statements of belief as they are being covered ad nauseum in other threads which I assume you will soon discover.
Well, ping's question was whether we believed these things to be the wrath of God, which I assert they are not.
Phoenix32890. Do you believe in God?
Ping
From Luke 13:1-5:
Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. Jesus answered, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish."
God's perfect justice applies to mankind as a whole, not just to the individual, as we are all part of one body. Even though it doesn't necessarily follow for example that a person who steals something receives worldly punishment for that particular offence, he has nevertheless committed a sin which needs to be atoned for.
"Some might say that all of the weather problems around the world are sent from God as a punishment to mankind for all the trouble he has caused the planet."
Some might say the moon is made of green cheese. Some might say there's an Easter Bunny . . . to all of this, including the opening post of this thread, i say pish-tosh.
I think you might find New Orleans was known for a bit more than pick-pocketing.
But you have to admit MA, that Florida has been taking a beating ever since they rigged the election. :wink:
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