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What do you predict will happen as a consequence of the war?

 
 
nimh
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2003 02:02 am
I'd agree.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2003 11:30 pm
http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav082803a.shtml

More current news about Turkey/Iraq/US tension.

Some of it--

EURASIA INSIGHT September 4, 2003


ETHNIC VIOLENCE INTENSIFIES TURKEY'S IRAQ DEBATE
Mevlut Katik: 8/28/03

Turkey is concerned about the prospect of increasing instability in northern Iraq. To promote reconstruction in the region, Turkish officials recently agreed to provide Iraqis with surplus electricity. In addition, Ankara is considering the deployment of Turkish military units in northern Iraq in the capacity of peacekeepers.

Turkish concerns over the tenuous conditions in northern Iraq have risen in recent days, fueled in large measure by rioting between Kurds and Turkomans that left at least 12 people dead in an around the northern oil hub of Kirkuk. The confrontation was touched off by an August 22 explosion at a Turkoman holy site. Turkomans blamed Kurds for the explosion.
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<They said 'tenuous'... Cool >
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2003 11:37 pm
And this from the source:OFFICE OF THE [Turkish] PRIME MINISTER, DIRECTORATE GENERAL OF PRESS AND INFORMATION

Quote:
NATO COMMANDER GEN. JONES ARRIVES IN ANKARA FOR DEPLOYMENT TALKS

Gen. James Jones, supreme commander of NATO forces in Europe, yesterday arrived in Ankara to discuss with both military and civilian officials a possible Turkish troop deployment to Iraq. Jones' first scheduled meeting today will be with Chief of General Staff Gen. Hilmi Ozkok, and later he is expected to visit Defense Minister Vecdi Gonul. Ozkok earlier issued a statement saying the aim of their meeting would be to get needed information about the possible mission in Iraq, which in turn would be submitted to the government and Parliament to help guide their decision. "We will get the military information that we need, nothing more," said Ozkok. Ozkok added that a US delegation would also soon arrive in Turkey to hold technical meetings. /All Papers/


US AMBASSADOR EDELMAN: "WASHINGTON WANTS TO SEE TURKEY ON ITS SIDE"

Newly posted US Ambassador to Ankara Eric Edelman yesterday met with Ankara Chamber of Industry Chairman Zafer Caglayan to exchange views on recent political and economic developments. Ankara and Washington reportedly recently agreed on the terms of an $8.5 billion loan from to help Turkey cushion the economic impact of the Iraq war. Despite recent rumors that the loan was tied to Ankara's military cooperation in Iraq, Edelman denied any direct link between the loan deal and possible Turkish troop deployments in Iraq. "However, Washington wants to see Turkey on its side," said the US ambassador. For his part, Caglayan stated that Turkey wished to establish fuller economic cooperation with the US, rather than receiving limited loan funds. "I told Edelman that Ankara wanted to protect Iraq's territorial integrity and also improve cooperation between Turkish and US businessmen in Iraq's reconstruction," added Caglayan. /Cumhuriyet/


FALLUJAH MAYOR AL-ALWANI: "OUR PEOPLE WANT TURKISH SOLDIERS TO COME TO IRAQ"

Taha Badawi Hamid al-Alwani, the mayor of Fallujah, an Iraqi city 50 kilometers northwest of Baghdad, yesterday said Fallujah residents would be very pleased to see Turkey sending soldiers to Iraq. Al-Alwani stated that he had explained to his constituents the contributions which Turkish soldiers could make to the region. "If foreign forces are going to come to our country, we want them to be Turkish soldiers," said the mayor. Al-Alwani also said that Turkey and Iraq shared many common ties through their shared region, faith and kinship, adding, "We're awaiting your soldiers' arrival." /Hurriyet/


HOLBROOKE: "THE BRITISH POST-OTTOMAN BORDERS FOR IRAQ WERE A MISTAKE"

The British-laid borders for Iraq set after the Ottoman era were a mistake, said Richard Holbrooke, the former US Ambassador the United Nations, on Sunday. "The country we call Iraq was created 81 years ago by Winston Churchill and others at the Cairo conference in 1922," Holbrooke told Fox News. "It never should have been created in its current international borders. The Ottomans had ruled it for 400 years as three different provinces - the Kurds, the Sunnis and the Shiites - Mosul, Baghdad and Basra. That was the right solution. The British made a mistake." Asked whether the borders should be reconsidered, Holbrooke replied, "I've thought a lot about that... I think, in 1991, the first Bush administration, working with the Turks, could have done it. ...[But] I think the moment to correct the Churchillian mistake of 1922 is passed, which means we are in a terrifically difficult problem." /Turkiye, Foxnews.com/


TERRORIST PKK/KADEK ABANDONS CEASEFIRE

The terrorist group PKK/KADEK announced yesterday that as of Monday, it had ended its five-year ceasefire, claiming that Kurds in Turkey lack adequate political and cultural rights. This summer Turkey's Parliament passes a slate of reforms including new rights for the nation's Kurds, a move soon followed by an amnesty law designed to encourage the terrorists to lay down their arms. In related news, European Union sources characterized the PKK/KADEK announcement as a sign of weakness and panic within its ranks. "The terror group's shouting in recent days is the result of panic stemming from the partial amnesty law," said Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul, echoing the EU sentiments, during his current visit to Vienna. /Star/
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Sofia
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2003 11:46 pm
Yep. My article goes on to say that Turkey is wanting to get into Iraq, but has reservations about coming under US leadership.

I wonder what their motive is. 8.5 bil? And, hands on protection of their borders?

Wonder if the Fallujia mayor knows how the Turkish soldiers will be recieved by the population? There are Kurdish spokespeople saying it would result in fighting.

Hoping for the best. But, I don't think anything good will come of Turkish soldiers in northern Iraq.

Guess it remains to be seen.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 4 Sep, 2003 08:46 am
bm
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 4 Sep, 2003 04:09 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
US AMBASSADOR EDELMAN: “WASHINGTON WANTS TO SEE TURKEY ON ITS SIDE”


I must be in some kind of weird mood. I honestly spent a full second or two imagining Turkey, on its side (as in, turned over, toppled), wondering what kind of metaphor was meant with that, and why America would want to see Turkey lying on its side - before I woke up and realised what it said, there.

Cool
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 4 Sep, 2003 05:54 pm
it's all in the perception.......
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Sofia
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 01:04 am
nimh's been into the cough medicine :wink:
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 03:26 am
hehheh :-).
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