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Latin America versus Bush

 
 
Reply Sat 5 Nov, 2005 10:15 pm
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 7 Nov, 2005 08:08 pm
Couldn't we rephrase it?
"Part of Latin America against US policies".

Bush is deservedly unpopular in most of the world, and even if the title looks cool, it lacks precision.
The free trade agreement for the Americas was first proposed by Clinton.
Some Latin American governments, from conservative Fox (Mexico) to socialist Lagos (Chile) are pushing in favor of an ample free trade agreement.
Societies are divided, everywhere, about this matter.

Free trade is certainly not a panacea, but I don't see a working alternative.
Isolationism? Trade barriers? As far as I know that has meant lesser or more expensive goods for consumers, bigger profits for local capitalists, not better wages or less unemployment.

In fact, as the last paragraph stands, the problem with Nafta is hidden protectionism within it (the US interest lobbys push against true free trade).
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yankeecat
 
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Reply Wed 9 Nov, 2005 03:40 am
The article is ludicrous, as is your idiotic and profoundly ignorant conclusion the free trade acts only for U.S. benefit. Every analysis of NAFTA I've ever read have said it has benefitted Canada by far more than either the U.S. or Mexico. In fact, prior to NAFTA, Canada had the highest national debt per capita in the developed world and a declining standard of living. It is unanimously agreed by economists that NAFTA has saved Canada economically.

You are an ignoramus.
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yankeecat
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 10:53 am
This is typical of the level at which Canadians operate... http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31846
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englishmajor
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 03:21 pm
"every analysis of NAFTA I've ever read". Would that be from an american perspective, do you think? Our PM does not happen to think NAFTA is a particularly effective means of trade. Especially when you yanks defy NAFTA rulings, (which is the final word, BTW), so you can keep diddling with our money. What gives yanks the right? If it were the other way around you'd be dropping bombs on us by now. We're just suing. And you will lose. Because NAFTA takes precedence over WTO rulings. Look it up before you open your pie hole.

I think it is wise that Canada is seeking trade with other countries. We used to trade exclusively with Europe in the 60's and are heading that way again. China and India are also signing deals with Canada.

America will be left to its own devices. Since you outsource for everything, and have a 200 BILLION debt to China, where does that leave you, besides learning to speak Chinese......

Yes, thank god for the US. Where oh where would we poor lumberjacks be without the US's beneficent help. Makes me shudder to think.

We'd be billions of dollars better. Due to NAFTA Canada has LOST money. But of course, you do not hear such sordid things on your US media corporation controlled coverage in the land of free speech. Or is it censure?

Due to the US closing the borders to Canadian beef, we've lost millions there as well. Yes, we all know that the US has never, never had one case of BSE! Only exists in Canada. And, it's very useful to place such sanctions on us since we don't agree with your war mongering or star wars program and refuse to participate. Good thing our PM has cojones. Your's has been castrated.

Sticks and stones..........
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englishmajor
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 03:28 pm
yankeecat wrote:
This is typical of the level at which Canadians operate... http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31846



Laughing So, how do you like it, Americans? We Canadians hear insults about our country, which you know nothing about, all the time. Can't take it, don't dish it out!
(I notice this is an american link you quoted from - would be interesting to see the Canadian's point of view of the incident, but we are much too forgiving :wink:
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talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 11:18 pm
Bush I was the first to start Free Trade and at the signing of the NAFTA between Canada and the United States, he suggested adding Chile and other South American countries to Free Trade to counter the European Union.
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englishmajor
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 11:39 pm
The EU, combined with Asia, is going to finish off the little american power, however much they think they have left.

With China, Korea, Germany (a few others i can't remember) holding over 200 BILLION of America's debt I'd say you guys are in for some recession and other interesting things. Canada is wisely signing onto trade agreements with China and India. America isn't the only player on the field. Certainly not the ones with the bucks.

Talk, I appreciate your comments, I'm really not mad at you, just america in general. Whoever started NAFTA isn't relevant. What is relevant is that America is in violation of its agreement. But then they give the middle finger to every country, don't they, so we should not feel special. That America feels it is above the law should be of concern to Americans, since they will be applying martial law in America in a few years, when the draft initiative fails.......and it will fail.

NAFTA has the final say over WTO, so America is just stalling, as usual. Meanwhile, lots of Canadian families are having a hard time with mills shut down for no reason, except to make $$ for America and stick it to Canada. Perhaps if you knew some personally, as I do, it would have more meaning. Just glad we have Paul Martin for our PM and not brainless Bush.
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