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Question raised on incarnations like Jesus,Sri Krishna etc.

 
 
Reply Sun 9 Oct, 2005 11:17 pm
A Christian Devotee: How can I believe other human incarnations like Krishna, Buddha and Mohammed when my Bible says that only Jesus is God in Flesh?

Swami: Bible says that Jesus is the God in flesh, but Gita says for a Hindu,
That Krishna is the God in flesh, let us analyse both these views?
I am not touching Buddhism and Islam in this topic because Islam believes
That Mohammad is not God in flesh and He was only messenger of God.
Buddhism keeps silent on the God and no question of God in flesh for them.
If the Bible told that Krishna was not God in flesh or if Gita told that
Jesus was not God in flesh, then both Bible and Gita are valid.
When the scriptures does not mention like this in complete version
How can you interpret your own scripture in the other way?
More over all of you whether Christians or Hindus have to accept
The concept of one God, there is no other alternative way in this.
You say that your God created this entire world and Hindus say that
Their God created this same entire world, unfortunately my dear friends!
I do not find two worlds and I find only one world! Now tell me

Whether this single entire world is created by Christian God or Hindu God?
One of you or both should be wrong and in that case who is wrong?
Either you should have two separate worlds or you should have single God.
If both the scriptures are wrong and both Gods did not create this Universe
Then the vote goes to Science, which says that the world exists by itself.
They say that no body created this world and it is self-existent.
Since both are sacred scriptures, let us solve this problem by analysis.
If you are rigid of your own scripture, I am not touching you at all.
If one is rigid where is the place for logical analysis and judgement?
In the court if one party says that what ever it says is the only truth
What is the necessity of the court, advocates, arguments and judgement?
If you leave rigidity and become flexible to accept the truth
After analysis only, you are most welcome to my Universal Spirituality.

Even in the small worldly matters, we apply open mind and analysis,
I wonder why you are not applying the same open mind and analysis
In such most important spiritual knowledge which decides everything.
The word Jesus stands for Human Incarnation and similarly the word Krishna.
In scriptures, we have to take the internal meanings and not simple external
Meanings for the sacred words, each word is ocean of divine knowledge.
Bible says that the lamb will come in red robe, here what is the meaning
For the word lamb? Is it simple animal with four legs and one tail.
Does this mean that Jesus will come again as animal? Here you say
That the word lamb stands for the Lord who is pure and innocent
Like the lamb, at one place you take the inner meaning and at other place
You take the external meaning! Therefore, the word Jesus means God in flesh,
Which means that the Lord comes in human form with blood and flesh.

This is a great concept, which Jesus tried to establish to the devotees.
Till then the Islam believed only in the formless God called Allah.
Islam does not treat Mohammad as God in flesh even today.
Jesus told that He and His father are one and the same, what does this mean?
Here the word father does not mean Joseph, the husband of His mother Mary.
If you take the meaning of the word of father in the external sense only
It is impossible because two human beings cannot be one and the same.
That Creator is indicated by the word father and human incarnation by the word Jesus
Both are one and the same since God pervaded all over the human incarnation.
If you take the meaning of the word Jesus as a particular human body only,
Then the meaning of the word father should also mean another particular human body.
In that case both the human bodies cannot be one and the same because
We are seeing the father and the son represented by two separate human bodies.
Similarly Jesus told that one could reach His father only through Him.

This again should mean that nobody could see or meet Joseph without Jesus.
But it is not so because several people have seen Joseph even before Jesus was born.
You are taking the inner meaning for the word father and say that father means God.
But for the word Jesus you are taking a particular human body only.
This is not justified and even a child will contradict this different approach.
When it is said that Jesus will baptise by fire, does it mean Jesus will sprinkle fire?
In such case the baptized person will be burnt with fire, therefore, the word fire
Means Knowledge as said in Gita "Jnanaagnih", moreover if you stick the word
Jesus to a particular human body only and if you say that Jesus exists even now,
Please show Me Jesus as the same human body to My eyes also, in the past
When Jesus was alive everyone could show Jesus as human body to anyone.
Whether a believer or a non-believer saw Jesus as human body in the past.

Now the situation is not the same, you say that you have seen Jesus.
How to believe this unless you show Jesus to Me also just like in the past.
The difference between the past and the present is that there was human body
In the past called as Jesus and at present that human body does not exist.
You have seen Jesus, no doubt, I agree and give value to your pure devotion.
You have seen the energetic body of Jesus now, therefore, there are two bodies
The past human body made of matter and energy and the present energetic body
Which is made of only radiation, now Jesus should not mean any of these two bodies.
In such case there should be two Jesuses, i.e., the climax of the foolishness.
There is only one Jesus who is embedded in the two bodies as the common entity.
You please analyse at least your own word "God in Flesh", what does this mean?
Do you mean that the flesh is God? In such case you should say "Flesh-God".

Your own word clearly indicates two separate items called God and Flesh.
God in Flesh means that God is present in the Flesh, which is the human body.
You are uttering a word and you don't analyse your own word! I pity you!
If you say "Water in Vessel", it means Water and Vessel are separate items.
Water can be in another Vessel also, Water can be in a bottle also.
Water can be in a pot also and Water can be in a jug also,
Similarly, God can be in several human bodies like Jesus, Krishna etc.,
When you utter the word Jesus, does it mean God or Flesh? Since both God and Flesh
Are not one and same, you must specify the meaning of the word Jesus.
You have used a third word apart from the two words God and Flesh.
Your third word should mean either God or Flesh or some other third item
If you mean both God and Flesh put together as the meaning for the word Jesus,
Then, the Flesh is not seen now because you mean that old human body only as Flesh.
Now this means that half of the meaning of the word Jesus disappeared.
Therefore, the word Jesus can have only the half meaning i.e., God.
Since God is omni-present, God did not disappear with that Flesh.
Therefore, the best solution is that the word Jesus represents the eternal God.
Now you can say that Jesus will come again because the eternal God can come

Again in some other Flesh, if you mean Flesh only by the word Jesus,
Jesus will never come again because that Flesh can never appear again.
That Flesh was decomposed into molecules and atoms and merged in the world.
How can you bring back those particular molecules and atoms from the nature
And again construct the same Flesh? If that is possible you can bring any dead person
In the similar way and that dead decomposed human body should reappear.
Take the help of logic and Science also in discussing the spiritual points.
When God is the source of this entire creation or nature, He is the source of
All the Knowledge with the help of which, you can discriminate the truth and false.
After analysing and fixing the goal, then you can have firm blind belief.
During the fixation of goal you should not be blind and should not be
Carried away by other blind fellows, after reaching the Delhi city
You can close your eyes and you may roam in any direction, you are in Delhi.
But while travelling towards Delhi you should be very alert and proceed in the
Correct path only, if you roam as you like you cannot reach the Delhi city.

Therefore, Jesus will come again means that the Human Incarnation will come
Again and again for every generation in order to avoid the partiality.
God is impartial and should not bless only one generation, according to you
There is no human rebirth and then if one human generation was only blessed
By the association of Holy Jesus, what about the other human generations
Which have no rebirth and have lost the golden chance of association of
Holy Jesus forever? What about the human generations present in other countries
Which did not even hear about Jesus though they existed at that time?
There was no fault from their side since at that time other countries are not
Having inter links and the communication gap was not their mistake.
Jesus should have communicated to other countries by His special power.
In such cash at least some people might have run to His place and might have
Had the golden association of Holy Jesus, since He was only the Saviour.
Now you may say that one can worship Jesus because He is eternal.

Very good, because at least the communication is given to all the countries.
But what about those unfortunate people who did not have even this opportunity?
Today I shall go to hell because I do not believe Jesus even though you told me
About Jesus so much, but what about those ancient people who did not even
Hear the name of Jesus just because of the communication gap existed.
God should have communicated to all the countries about Jesus at that time.
God is omnipotent and for Him it would have been very easy to do so.
Your rigid concept is making your own God partial and impotent.
The only way to solve this problem is to accept that God came
To all the countries simultaneously in different Human forms and preached
The same spiritual knowledge in different languages on this earth.
Now the problem is solved because there is no necessity for the God
To communicate about Jesus to other countries, since same Jesus came
To all the countries simultaneously and taught the same knowledge.

Now God became impartial and can remain omnipotent in this matter.
To suit different cultures, the same human incarnation might have come
In different names and with different dress to suit into different civilisations.
Now Bible and Gita are one and the same subject wise, different language wise.
By this did you loose the greatness of Jesus in any way? In fact, His greatness
Is multiplied several times, if you say that your teacher has gone abroad
And gave lectures in their languages, you feel your teacher is very great.
Similarly your Jesus has come to all the countries and taught the same subject
When your teacher goes abroad, is he not wearing the dress of that country?
So far never Jesus came in the same form and never Krishna came
In the same form, Jesus says that He will come again and Krishna says
That He will come to this earth whenever the spirituality and justice
Are disturbed, you say that Jesus did not die when he was crucified.

Similarly Hindus say that Krishna never died and He was eternal.
But no body has seen Jesus or Krishna in the same Human body, never!
People might have seen some energetic forms, which are not physical.
Since Jesus has several super powers, He came in different human forms
To all the countries simultaneously and gave the same benefit to all.
Don't you agree that Jesus can have this super power? If you agree that
He had all types of super powers, then there is no contradiction in this point.
Moreover, the use of such super power to come simultaneously to all countries
To teach the same spiritual knowledge makes Jesus impartial Father.
This also supports that Jesus created this entire Universe and is Father of all
The human beings scattered in different countries on this earth.
This concept broadens the personality of Jesus to unimaginable boundaries,
Where as your concept limits Him to a limited body limited to a particular time only.
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