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French Helped Conceal WMD from UN Inspectors

 
 
Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 05:38 am
Former UN Inspector Links French to helping Iraqis to Conceal WMD-
Also alleges Iraqi tie to al Queda


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Iraq Will Use Banned Weapons, Ex-Inspector Says

By JIM SLOAN [email protected]
Published: Apr 3, 2003
TAMPA - A former U.N. weapons inspector says Iraq has nuclear and chemical weapons, and won't hesitate to use them if things get desperate.
``Saddam Hussein is out to win,'' said Bill Tierney, who helped conduct weapon inspections in Iraq in 1997 and 1998. ``He will try to inflict casualties without weapons of mass destruction. If that doesn't work, then the time comes to use what you've got.''

Tierney was recruited for the previous U.N. inspection team in 1997 while working for U.S. Central Command, where he analyzed possible targets in case the United States decided it had to go into Iraq again.
Fluent in Arabic, he also once interrogated al-Qaida and Taliban suspects in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Speaking at a Kiwanis Club meeting Wednesday in Tampa, Tierney predicted U.S. forces will eventually uncover Saddam's chemical labs - and even an underground plant for producing enriched uranium - in and around Baghdad.
``These weapons are going to be there,'' he said. ``Absolutely. Without a doubt. Period.''

The Iraqis often stymied inspectors by quickly moving mobile chemical labs, helped by the French, who leaked them U.N. lists of potential inspection sites, Tierney said.

It got so bad, he said, that inspectors came up with three lists - a fake one for the French, another fake list because the French suspected the first list was phony, and a ``real'' list.

``The French provided heads-up information to the Iraqis the entire time of the inspections,'' he said. ``They were playing both sides against the middle.''

Tierney's career with Central Command unraveled after he came under fire for praying with a nervous Iraqi defector. He resigned after critics accused him of violating a Central Command directive prohibiting religious proselytizing.

He now works for a local firm that does background checks on companies and individuals.

Despite Saddam's denials, Tierney said, the Iraqi leader has always embraced jihad, or ``holy war,'' especially after getting his ``clock cleaned'' confronting U.S. forces in conventional warfare during Operation Desert Storm.

``I'm here to tell you we were fooled,'' Tierney said. ``We thought Osama bin Laden was too holy to sully himself with the likes of Saddam Hussein.''

Eventually, he said, ``There is going to be a wealth of evidence that he [Saddam] spent his time recruiting, training and employing'' unconventional fighters, including al-Qaida.

Tierney said the United States must steel itself against Saddam's accusations of Iraqi civilian casualties and ``deal decisively'' with the dictator.
``There's too much at stake,'' he said. ``Thank God for George Bush for summoning the courage to go and do what it takes to win.''


http://www.tampatrib.com/News/MGAV408B2ED.html

Does this come as a surprise to you? What do you think?
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pueo
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 05:56 am
i for one, am not surprised.
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gezzy
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 06:02 am
I'm with Pueo.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 10:29 am
I am very curious why I have gotten so few responses to this thread. Seems to be some pretty important information. What's up?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 10:36 am
I'm very suspicious of the info, but too lazy to do research. Will come back to it. (Not a judgement, in other words, just makes me cock and eyebrow and go "hmmmmmmmmm...")
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 10:38 am
Found this so far -- this guy Tierney was kicked off of the UN inspections teams for prosletyzing:

http://windsofchange.net/archives/002938.html

Quote:
Tierney is a Certified Crackpot.

"Tierney's methods of ascertaining this location were rather unconventional. "I would ask God and just get a sense if something was valid or not, and then know if I needed to pursue it," he said. His assessments through prayer were then confirmed to him by a friend's clairvoyant dream, where he was able to find the location on a map. "Everything she said lined up. This place meets the criteria," Tierney said of a power generator plant near the Tigris River that he believes is actually a cover for a secret uranium facility. "
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 10:45 am
More:

Quote:
TIERNEY: Oh, Yes. Sure. Yes. Like you said, it's absurd, that Hans Blix is a fool and Mohammed El Baradei is a fraud. Okay?

ROBERTSON: You heard it here - "Hans Blix is a fool and El Baradei is a fraud?"

TIERNEY: Yeah. Look, I checked my fire when this first started, because I just wanted to see how things progressed, but there is a few things your viewers should know. Kofi Annan just despised the U.N. Special Commission. It was outside of the normal rules of the U.N. It was that people there were based on competency, not the areas of the world, and he is the one who helped with the demise of UNSCOM. He is the one who picked Hans Blix. If you wanted to pick someone who was sure to fail, yet do so with an air of legitimacy, you can't pick a better person than Hans Blix.



http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/030318b.asp
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 10:47 am
Re: French Helped Conceal WMD from UN Inspectors
Phoenix32890 wrote:

Does this come as a surprise to you? What do you think?


Which part, that people lie or that others believe them? Please check your sources.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 11:13 am
Craven- I cited my source- the Tampa Tribune. I had heard about the fact that Tierney had been sacked because of supposed "proselytizing".

I think that many people are underestimating Saddam, and his potential for "mischief". I really would prefer that I am absolutely wrong on this issue, but.................let's wait and see. I think that when our troops take over Baghdad, there will be lots of surprises!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 11:31 am
No surprise. However, the question then becomes, what's the consequence? c.i.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 11:41 am
Oh, Saddam is a baddie. Of course. Major league baddie. But I don't trust this guy (Tierney) from what I found (not just the prosletyzing -- I didn't like the Pat Robertson interview one bit), and he is not just saying that Saddam is a baddie. He is saying two specific things -- that there are ties between Saddam and Al Quida (I don't buy it) and that the French helped Iraqis conceal WMDs (I don't buy it.)
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 11:49 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Craven- I cited my source- the Tampa Tribune. I had heard about the fact that Tierney had been sacked because of supposed "proselytizing".

I think that many people are underestimating Saddam, and his potential for "mischief". I really would prefer that I am absolutely wrong on this issue, but.................let's wait and see. I think that when our troops take over Baghdad, there will be lots of surprises!


I did not say cite your source, I said check your source. Your preference is well placed and there is no need to wait and see. That man lied, and some, as always, help disseminate bull.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 12:08 pm
Not familiar with Tampa Tribune or Tierney. Oh well, live and learn. c.i.
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Docent P
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2003 02:16 am
Thank you for the info, Phoenix.

It's a very significant fact. I was surprised reading it. Previously I thought that the highest record of perfidy belongs to Putin who sent GPS jammers and other modern warfare to Saddam a month before the war but now I see the French can pretend to have this record broken. Really "everything has it's limit but only human's dirtiness is unlimited" (who said? - I don't remember). Generally it seems like a truthful information, at least it explains two facts: why Saddam drove the inspectors out in 1998 (when they included some American specialists) and why he wellcomed Blix (who had no Americans in his delegation) in 2003.

Now what conclusions do we have to do?

1 Saddam REALLY has not only chemical weapon but also nuclear one. His nuclear program started in 1980 (in 1982 Israeli bombers destroyed a nuclear plant designed to produce military nuclear materials in Iraq, but since that time Saddam had thousands of opportunities to restart his program. Seemly he hasn't lost them) hasn't been cancelled.

2 All our present pigeons of the peace - Kofi Annan, Chirac, Putin, Blix - were perfectly informed about it.

3 The UN not only didn't force Saddam to disarm but furthermore helped him to save his WMD, in other words made all possible to prevent his peaceful disarming.

4 So we can say that the UN have destroyed all possible ways of the peaceful dissolving of this problem. Thereafter the UN TAKE THE MAIN RESPONSIBLITY FOR THE WAR. Our dear UN's pigeons bursting into false tears about "poor victims among Iraqi citizens" provoked the war, providing the worst possible scenario - with chemical and nuclear strikes.

BTW it's not the first war initiated or provoked by the UN. This organization isn't only useless for the world but also very dangerous. Everyone who agreed with the slogan "I support the war with UN's permission" - really supported the UN's bloodthirsty maniacs, the world terrorism, the future massacres in Iraq and so on. The American hardliners has been doing all possible to face Saddam with a really strong threats and to force him to disarm in the peace way. But they failed because in one hand Saddam got so strong support from the UN, in other hand he saw very massive anti-war protests in the USA (sponsored by North Korea and other Communist regimes).

5 At the last UN summit Annan required 4-5 months else to complete his "inspections". I wonder what armament was he going to present to Saddam else?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 5 Apr, 2003 09:45 am
Well, until today there is no further proof (or even quote) than that Tampa newspaper.
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