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Help with this one. Mathematical and 4 variables to boot

 
 
Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 12:39 am
I have this math problem. During a text votation A got 11%, B got 10% while C had 79%.

If part of the votes of B was 175 votes, what is the total number of votes from A, B and C?

I was thinking it would go something like this.

(A)11% + (B+175)10% + (C)79%

Other than that, I haven't progressed at all. I screwed up and did this

(A) 11% + (B+175)10% + (C) 79% = (D-175) 100%

CAN ANYONE HELP?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 12:48 am
Re: Help with this one. Mathematical and 4 variables to boot
megalomax wrote:
I have this math problem. During a text votation A got 11%, B got 10% while C had 79%.

If part of the votes of B was 175 votes, what is the total number of votes from A, B and C?

If I understand your problem correctly, the total number of votes was 1750.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 12:49 am
Your equation is to complex. This problem is simpler than that.

The key is to find the total number of votes. You can do that with the information given about B.
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megalomax
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 12:52 am
no, part of the votes B got was 175. I'm trying to find the total.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 12:54 am
megalomax wrote:
no, part of the votes B got was 175. I'm trying to find the total.

B's 175 was 10% of the total. Therefore, the total was 1750.
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megalomax
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 12:55 am
ebrown_p wrote:
Your equation is to complex. This problem is simpler than that.

The key is to find the total number of votes. You can do that with the information given about B.


I know, I'm intellectually inept, so I need help!
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megalomax
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 12:59 am
O_o my mind is about to blow. Let me see,

if X represents the votes A got, Y for the votes of B, Z for the votes of C and N for the total votes. I'm looking for N.

The only clue given is that part of Y is 175 votes not the total Y. So...

(X)11% + (Y-175)10% + (Z)79% = (N-175) 100%

TY for the people who are trying to help. I'm running out papers. Lolz
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 01:00 am
megalomax wrote:
O_o my mind is about to blow. Let me see,

if X represents the votes A got, Y for the votes of B, Z for the votes of C and N for the total votes. I'm looking for N.

The only clue given is that part of Y is 175 votes not the total Y. So...

(X)11% + (Y-175)10% + (Z)79% = (N-175) 100%

TY for the people who are trying to help. I'm running out papers. Lolz

The total is 1750 if you have stated the problem correctly.
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megalomax
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 01:06 am
Its not the correct answer. Ty for trying anyways. I don't think I'll be able to answer this question.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 01:12 am
megalomax wrote:
Its not the correct answer. Ty for trying anyways. I don't think I'll be able to answer this question.

It may not be the correct answer to the problem you were given, but it is the correct answer to the problem you stated:

megalomax wrote:
I have this math problem. During a text votation A got 11%, B got 10% while C had 79%.

If part of the votes of B was 175 votes, what is the total number of votes from A, B and C?


You have stated that:

1. B got 175
2. B got 10% of the total

If these statements are both true, then the total was 175/.1 = 1750.
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megalomax
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 01:33 am
Oh made a mistake

The total votes B got was (Y-175) ahh never mind. I think its an impossible problem.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 02:15 am
No, go ahead, post it. Some of us majored in science, math, or engineering in college.
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megalomax
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 04:27 am
if X represents the votes A got, Y for the votes of B, Z for the votes of C and N for the total votes. I'm looking for N.

The only clue given is that part of Y is 175 votes not the total Y. So...

(X)11% + (Y-175)10% + (Z)79% = (N-175) 100%

should I convert the percentages to decimal form first?
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 07:06 am
OK Mega.

This problem comes in steps. You are having trouble with that big formula... so drop it for now. We are trying to get you to take it step by step.

The first step is 1. Find out the total number of votes

The secret is You don't need all of the information give to find out step 1.

So, to get started in the right direction please answer this question (and make sure you understand it because it will help in this question and in your class).

1. We know that B got 10% of the votes. We also know that B got 175 votes. What is the total number of votes

Think about what this means. Out of a total number of votes, 10% of them are B votes. Can you tell us how to get this total number?

(hint: This part of the question has absolutely nothing to do with A or C or D).
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megalomax
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 07:48 am
Thats why I'm having a problem...

Unknowns:

Votes of A, Votes of B, Votes of C, total number of votes.

Known:

Part of the votes of B is 175.

Maybe If I gave it names. After the voting, Jenny got 11% of the total number of votes, Brad got 10% and Russell won with 79% of the total votes.

If part of the number of votes of Brad is 175, what is the total number of votes.

Brad did not get 175 votes, 175 is just part of the total votes brad is getting. I think its just too impossible.
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megalomax
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 07:51 am
ebrown_p wrote:
OK Mega.

This problem comes in steps. You are having trouble with that big formula... so drop it for now. We are trying to get you to take it step by step.

The first step is 1. Find out the total number of votes

The secret is You don't need all of the information give to find out step 1.

So, to get started in the right direction please answer this question (and make sure you understand it because it will help in this question and in your class).

1. We know that B got 10% of the votes. We also know that B got 175 votes. What is the total number of votes

Think about what this means. Out of a total number of votes, 10% of them are B votes. Can you tell us how to get this total number?

(hint: This part of the question has absolutely nothing to do with A or C or D).


If it was that easy that B just got 175 votes. The problem was written in my dialect and I am having trouble translating it but I think I've managed.
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parados
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 08:11 am
It is unclear what kind of an answer you are looking for..

B got 175 votes plus an undertermined other amount.

We know that B got 10% of total..

X = Total votes.
Y = Votes not accounted for

Since B got (175 + Z) then (175 + Z) = 10% of X
X = 1750 + 10Z
Y = 10Z

A got 11% of X, we know what X is So A got 192.5+ 1.1(Z)

.11(1750 +10Z)

C got 79% of X, so that means C got 1382.5 + 7.9(Z)

.79(1750+10Z)


You can take these formulas and move them around in a lot of different ways. You can assume that each vote must be a whole number and solve for possible Z. Quick induction shows that some possible Z are 175 or 175 + variables of 350 in order to make all three votes whole numbers.
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vinsan
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 01:50 pm
Re: Help with this one. Mathematical and 4 variables to boot
megalomax wrote:
I have this math problem. During a text votation A got 11%, B got 10% while C had 79%.

If part of the votes of B was 175 votes, what is the total number of votes from A, B and C?

I was thinking it would go something like this.

(A)11% + (B+175)10% + (C)79%

Other than that, I haven't progressed at all. I screwed up and did this

(A) 11% + (B+175)10% + (C) 79% = (D-175) 100%

CAN ANYONE HELP?


Consider total votes as X

so as per the distribution we have

X/10 = 175 + a ... a is the undertermined amount remaining from B's share

X = (175 + a)*10

So we have

a = X/10-175

So for a to be >= 0

X/10>=175

X >= 1750

Now iterarte until you find a satisfactory values that gives 11% and 79% of the total X votes as Integer and should be >= 1750

Ok so we have X as any multiple of 100 which is >=1750

Code:Let the Least X = 1800

A's share = 11% X= 11*18 = 198 votes
B's share = 10% X=10*18 = 180 votes
C's share = 79% X=79*18 = 1422 votes

So for B part of votes are 175 and other percentages are adjusted accordingly


What say?
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megalomax
 
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Reply Sun 11 Sep, 2005 08:38 pm
I'm so confused. Oh well flunking won't be that bad. I wonder if teacher can answer his own problem.
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vinsan
 
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Reply Mon 12 Sep, 2005 03:24 am
See my previous reply .... Is that wrong?
megalomax wrote:
I'm so confused. Oh well flunking won't be that bad. I wonder if teacher can answer his own problem.


Haven't you seen my previous reply

We can have X as any multiple of 100 which is >=1750

e.g Least value of X = 1800

A's share = 11% X= 11*18 = 198 votes
B's share = 10% X=10*18 = 180 votes
C's share = 79% X=79*18 = 1422 votes

So for B part of votes are 175 and other percentages are adjusted accordingly

I mean it can happen that the teacher missed something in the problem ....

But with the given information my reply satisfies the solution set. Isn't it?
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