So the following below was something that was written ( most likely by
a person faking Catholic Atheism ) by somebody who has a problem with
religion and pretended to ask questions. So this was my response.
I see tons of these writings all over the internet, usually bashing
Christ worshippers in some form or another, and I attempt to respond to
them. It is like they expect me to go into a verse or even panick or
behave stupid and this was my logical response. I am posting this
here so that maybe people would read this persons questioning I wrote
in quotes and responded with. Of course after responding to this
person my post was removed ironically. Why? Because I actually made a
positive effort. I am sorry I am an English speaking person not a
person who reads and writes in some eastern language like Hebrew, or
Chinese.
Quote:I used to be a Christian (Roman Catholic to be specific)
Christanity started before Catholicism with the following of Christ.
The Roman Empire hung him because of what he represented. Jews could not accept him yet that is where the original follows came from logically. It
is arguable that the rise of Peter and the "Holy Roman Catholic Empire"
in reality was a safety net for Old-Rome in which a new location of the former was moved north east of the Empire. Think about the term/name "Jesus" simply could mean "He's Zues" which further create division and disdain against the AngloSaxon terms via Judiasm ( Jews haters still exsist ). Is it just because of not using the Hebrew name for Christ ( Yehoshua ) or Arabic ( Isa/Esa ). Further question the idea the amount of "Slaves" in the Roman Empire did not lead to a mass take over and those dubbed "Christians" and or "Catholics" was actually victims of this take-over simular to how Haiti was taken over and left to rot.
Quote:but slowly grew into weak atheism.
Atheist are really people of another religion or belief system usaully from the
far-east. Meaning "they accept their own belief system but not anything to do
with the west". That is the atheist game. To make religion another "Omgsh your disrespecting my culture" or "Omgsh you so racist".
"Jesus" is the rock that aniliated the Roman-Empire. That is why Jesus is special. Without Jesus Rome would still most likely exsist today or even expand to the earth. It was impossible not to see how powerful the Roman empire was. Even years later people still worship the "idea" of the greatness of Rome. It is hard to deny this. Even the idea of "the flesh".
Human beings are god like beings. There are no other beings as of now that can surpass human beings in all it's struggle to exsist. Think about it. How insane it is that this little-blue planet is the only planet with life yet we have
photos of the entire universe which we are nothing in it's comparison to and why? Think about the "design" of nature and how a Banana evolved to fit our hand even if we did came from some kind of Missing-Link being. "Where is it all coming from and where is it all going" - Kefka
Quote:What makes you so sure that you picked the right religion
Your born into it. Usually "religion" describes the western-belief system.
Quote: subset of that religion?
The belief of "God" AKA Abraham god diverges into three groups.
Christianity - Christ came annihilated the Roman Empire made the world clean.
Islam - Muhammad came along and brought peace to warring nations.
Judaism - Two warring groups of the same people brought together by Pharaoh via slavery.
All three are the same god.
They just have different founders and founding.
What they have in common ?
Elohim - which is one of the oldest words to retain to god that is shared by
all religious following of god. This means "Group" or "Congregation" or "Council" Meaning god is a group working as one.
Point being they are all the same god with some differences.
sin we are born with was forgiven "Jesus" spilled his flesh body for us. It is the sin we are born with out of the idea the
mother could die to give birth to us ( like in the recent Alien movie ).
"Man is the Hand of God" We are like god but we are not god. We can mimic God but not be god. That is what humans are in terms of the image of god. We create in terms of serving the pleasure of the creator. We make to please the creator. That is how it is meant to be, but to remember the meaning of Elohim when it comes to the supreme being. The only reason why me or you is alive or we are not struggling with boulders is because another man made it easier for the next man to actually function and be normal. Yes there are errors but that is the reality we live in. There is no person on this planet who life is being extended thanks to medical-miracle-science. Only thing greater is nature itself.
Quote:tricked to sin by the devil
You gotta checkout the Zeitgeist series. The "Devil" came into being via the idea of "Hades". There is something worst then that. Aniliation.
Quote:this is all part of his plan.
God is testing us. Like Cyberdime in Terminator 5 "You think it would be this easy".
Quote:Life predetermined and there is no free will.
You do have free will. You have so much free will. It is easy to destroy then to create. Think about the path of your life.
Quote:Why did god have a chosen people?
Humanity needs a little budge in the correct direction or suggestion.
Quote: god ultimately wanted as Jesus would later come and change that.
The Roman Empire would throw mindless women into an arena and then strip them naked and slaughter them slowly for entertainment. Think about that for five seconds.
Quote:Why was there an Old Testament and then a New Testament
Judaism have this view that is problematic. All non-Jews are less then animals. To lie with one is like lying with one. I had a Jewish neighbor next to my grandpa house. Little kid would tell me all kinds of nonsense. Like people would urinate on the lawn. Reality check in Judiasm you have the issue where people are literally married to their cousins and sisters are marrying brothers. His sister even had body issues, even worst outside
I would see tons of "Disabled men" and "housing for disabled people". Even couples where one person is kinda "wonky" ( off ). Guess what? to some circumstances even Islamic and people within Christianity variants performs this act.
So you have the
Torah, Talmud
Quran
Bible ( other words are used )
of all the most shortest would be the Bible
Try reading and figuring it out. In various forms of Christianity the second book is basically "The Acts of Jesus" while the first book is basically "life before Jesus"
"Jesus" is god made flesh? Why that idea? Because of the fall of Roman Empire and shift in powers. The resurrection. As a man Jesus had a flesh body with flesh needs. AKA "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak". Jesus had temptation as well similar to "300BC". Jesus could have lived grew old and continue his work but via his sacrifice he was able to give Mankind a loop-hole out of the sin that was created by Adam and Eve. "Worship me and all these things I will give thee". The Devil is a state of mind rather the God like state of man that is the will of man to do what must be done.
Quote: Lutheranism was a movement of post Protestantism.
While the Royals wanted power from the Catholic Church it was about the reality of abuse of powers via the Catholic Church. Further more the Royals ( like the Tudors ) wanted to do things like "divorce" and if it was not granted by the Pope they would find a way around this fact. Their was the 30, 60, and 100 years wars over these ideas. The simple idea that Worship of God could be elsewhere and you can not buy your way into gods grace.
Quote: shitpost with that kind of dumb, divisive fanaticism.
So you write your questions and do not want a logical answer? How amusing. You want to hear short "yes" and "no" like some bit from "Tron".
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Short answer long.
No God = No Rules = People can eat people = People can break into peoples yards and take over their lives = People could claim ownership to others belongings, spouses, children, income without resistance.
"God is the hand of man"
The problem with the Catholic Church is when you pay penance to something not by actually suffering but actually donating income towards that being. During the "Black Plague" ( little Ice Age and Dark Ages of Europe ) The "Church" help prevent people from dying and spread of disease along with preservation of culture ( Greek Rome etc ).
The storm is over but that does not mean that we should pretend problems exist.