Weird Coronation stuff.

Reply Sat 4 Mar, 2023 05:49 am
I don't know if any people here remember the last coronation. I don't, it happened before I was born, so for a lot of us this quite new.

Some stuff will be similar to the Jubilees, for example tons of commemorative tat sold at exorbitant prices which will be worth next to nothing in a few years time.

Some stuff, and events are unique to coronations. This is a ceremony that goes back centuries steeped in tradition with all sorts of strange peculiarities.

I knew about the Stone of Destiny already, but a lot of people have never heard of it. (Lots more at link.)

The Stone of Scone (/ˈskuːn/; Scottish Gaelic: An Lia Fàil; Scots: Stane o Scuin)—also known as the Stone of Destiny, and often referred to in England as The Coronation Stone—is an oblong block of red sandstone that has been used for centuries in the coronation of the monarchs of Scotland. It is also known as Jacob's Pillow Stone and the Tanist Stone, and as clach-na-cinneamhain in Scottish Gaelic.

Historically, the artefact was kept at the now-ruined Scone Abbey in Scone, near Perth, Scotland. It was seized by Edward I's forces from Scone during the English invasion of Scotland in 1296, and was used in the coronation of the monarchs of England as well as the monarchs of Great Britain and the United Kingdom, following the Treaty of Union of 1707. Its size is 26 in (66 cm) by 16.7 in (42 cm) by 10.5 in (26.7 cm) and its weight is approximately 335 lb (152 kg). A roughly incised cross is on one surface, and an iron ring at each end aids with transport.[1] Monarchs used to sit on the Stone of Scone itself until a wooden platform was added to the Coronation Chair in the 17th century.[2]

In 1996, the British Government decided to return the stone to Scotland, when not in use at coronations, and it was transported to Edinburgh Castle, where it is now kept with the Scottish Crown Jewels.


This I did not know, I knew about oil being anointed but that was about it.

The oil used to anoint the King in the coronation is one of the most sacred and mysterious parts of the ceremony - and a new quantity has been prepared.

But reflecting modern animal-friendly sensitivities, this oil will not include any ingredients from animals.

The "chrism oil" for the coronation was consecrated in a religious ceremony in Jerusalem on Friday.

This was carried out in one of the city's holiest Christian sites, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

Previous versions have included civet oil, from the glands of the small mammals, and ambergris from the intestines of whales.

There had been concerns about animal cruelty and the need to protect wildlife and the latest formula for the holy oil for King Charles's coronation will be animal free.

Although the coronation is seen as a great moment of national pageantry and historic rituals, there is a strong religious element.

The anointing of the King has echoes of a christening or the ordination into religious orders, with the monarch being symbolically touched with holy oil on the head, chest and hands.

This was considered such a sacred moment that the television cameras were not allowed to film it in 1953 - and there has been speculation about whether the anointing will be shown on TV during King Charles' coronation on 6 May.

The new oil includes olive oil scented with a mix of essential oils, sesame, rose, jasmine, cinnamon, neroli and benzoin, with orange blossom also added.

It also has a royal family significance, partly using olives grown on the Mount of Olives at the Monastery of Mary Magdalene, which is where the King's grandmother, Princess Alice, is buried.

In his Christmas message, the King had spoken of his own Christian faith and how much he had been moved when he visited biblical sites, such as Jesus' birthplace in Bethlehem.

The oil was consecrated by the Patriarch of Jerusalem and the Anglican Archbishop in Jerusalem, at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, built on the site where it is believed Jesus died and was buried.

Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury, welcomed the use of oil from the Mount of Olives, a site outside Jerusalem with many biblical connections.

"This demonstrates the deep historic link between the coronation, the Bible and the Holy Land," said the archbishop.

He added: "From ancient kings through to the present day, monarchs have been anointed with oil from this sacred place."

The implements used for the anointing - including a spoon - are rare survivors of the original medieval coronation regalia, most of which were destroyed on the orders of Oliver Cromwell in 1649.

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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2023 04:18 am
The Crown, Orb and Sceptre are the symbols of power and government.

They stayed with the Queen's body throughout the lying in state, right up until the last minutes of the funeral when they were removed by the Crown Jeweller Mark Appleby. After that they were given to the care of the Dean of Windsor who will officially be in charge until the coronation.

Charles is King, but he won't be allowed near the symbols of power until the coronation itself.
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2023 04:28 am
This is how British comics have celebrated previous coronations.



Notice how Disney tries to increase sales.



The following strip is interesting in that it focuses on television. The Coronation of Elizabeth is credited with bringing television into British people's homes. Prior to that it was an expensive toy for the aristocracy. The coronation was a live event that people wanted to see, and they saw it on television. Not everyone could afford one, but those who could opened their homes to their neighbours to watch the ceremony.

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