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Difference between the sentences

 
 
Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2022 11:42 am
My sister, Mary, is clever.
My sister Mary is clever.

Is there any difference between the sentences?

Thanks.
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Mame
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2022 02:48 pm
@tanguatlay,
Commas again? What do YOU think?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2022 03:40 pm
@Mame,
My! Sister Mary is clever.
tanguatlay
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 12:25 am
@Mame,
Mame wrote:

Commas again? What do YOU think?

I have a problem with punctuation. I wonder why the commas are in the sentence. That's one of the disadvantages of being a non-native.

tanguatlay
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 12:46 am
Do the commas make any difference? I'm puzzled. English grammar is very confusing. I inserted commas without knowing why. I have seen both versions.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 02:58 am
@tanguatlay,
It's lack of usage, the two commas make the name a separate clause that when removed does not change the sentence in any significant way.


50 years that would be correct, but now a lot of people don't bother.

That's all it is.
Joeblow
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 06:06 am
@izzythepush,
Lol! Good one Smile
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Mame
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 06:10 am
@tanguatlay,
You should read at least one of those Comma links I sent you before coming here. Commas are sometimes used as an aside, as parentheses, to bracket (as Izzy said) information that's not critical to the sentence.

I live in the house, which my mom bought, at the top of the hill.

Here giving directions to the house; who bought it is irrelevant.

Please do some reading or homework, or at least visit a decent grammar/punctuation site before asking the same questions. People would be more inclined to help if you posted your question and gave your rationale for asking.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 07:31 am
@tanguatlay,

Quote:
Commas again? What do YOU think?


"Commas, again?" Whoda thought two words could constitute a run-on sentence? But they do.
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 07:49 am
Mary: "How did your sister manage to make that delicious pie without baking soda?"

Joe: "My sister, Mary, is clever."
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 09:13 am
@tanguatlay,
Quote:
I wonder why the commas are in the sentence.


Commas separate clauses that could be written separate complete sentences. Semi-colons separate a complete sentence from a separate independent clause.
hightor
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 09:22 am
@bobsal u1553115,
And commas can be used to mark natural pauses in spoken language.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 10:21 am
@hightor,
Complicated, of course, by the fact hardly anybody speaks in grammatically correct sentences these days.
steve reid
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 03:42 am
@tanguatlay,
sorry
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steve reid
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 05:50 am
@tanguatlay,
I posted then pulled this reply as I'm unsure about the first comma, still am ?

After over 60 years of mangling the English language, my take would be

Without commas it is unambiguous, you have a sister called Mary and she is clever

After inserting the 1st comma

Mary is not necessarily your sister, you could be addressing another sister(Jane) and telling Jane, Mary is clever

After placing the 2nd comma

"is clever" becomes a question, so your asking Jane if Mary is clever
tanguatlay
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 05:54 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

It's lack of usage, the two commas make the name a separate clause that when removed does not change the sentence in any significant way.


50 years that would be correct, but now a lot of people don't bother.

That's all it is.
Thanks.
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tanguatlay
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 05:58 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

And commas can be used to mark natural pauses in spoken language.
Thanks.
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tanguatlay
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 06:01 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

It's lack of usage, the two commas make the name a separate clause that when removed does not change the sentence in any significant way.


50 years that would be correct, but now a lot of people don't bother.

That's all it is.
Thanks.
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tanguatlay
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 06:07 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Mary: "How did your sister manage to make that delicious pie without baking soda?"

Joe: "My sister, Mary, is clever."

Thanks, hightor!

"My sister Mary is clever."
"My sister, Mary, is clever."

Do the sentences have the same meaning?
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tanguatlay
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 06:16 am
@Mame,
Mame wrote:

You should read at least one of those Comma links I sent you before coming here. Commas are sometimes used as an aside, as parentheses, to bracket (as Izzy said) information that's not critical to the sentence.

If I am correct, I have not received any comma links. If I am not wrong, would you be so kind as to send them to me? Many thanks!
 

 
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