JESUS

The RCC never left the flock, but Paul left his flock when he went on his travels. Also, the RCC doesn't have a physical arm and eye like a man does.

Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.
Zechariah 11:17

The Lord said to Ananias, “Go, because I have chosen him to serve me, to make my name known to Gentiles and kings and to the people of Israel.

Paul's Mission was to travel throughout Israel and the lands of the Gentiles, to make the name of Christ Jesus known to the peoples of the civilized world.

In his 2nd letter to the Corinthians 11: 4; Paul says, “You gladly tolerate anyone who comes to you and preaches a different Jesus, not the one we preached; and you accept a spirit and a gospel completely different from the spirit and the gospel you received from us.”

So, what was that other gospel that was leading the people away from the truth and away from the Jesus as preached by the Apostles, to another false Jesus?

That gospel was the word of the anti-christ, that refused to acknowledge that Jesus had come as a human being, and instead, they believed that he was a spirit, whose humanlike body was able to pass through Mary’s Hymen without breaking it, and who, like some Hologram, would appear and disappear at will.

Even in the days of John the beloved disciple, ‘Docetism,’ the concept that Jesus had existed as a spirit rather than a human being, and could appear and disappear like some hologram, had begun to rear its ugly head. That’s why it is written in 1 John 4: 1-3; My dear friends, do not believe all who claim to have the Spirit, but test them to find out if the spirit they have comes from God. For many false prophets have gone out everywhere. This is how you will be able to know whether it is God's Spirit: anyone who acknowledges that Jesus Christ came as a human being has the Spirit who comes from God. But anyone who denies this about Jesus does not have the Spirit from God. The spirit that he has is from the Enemy of Christ; you heard that it would come, and now it is here in the world already.

2nd letter of John verses 7-10; “Many deceivers have gone out all over the world, people who do not acknowledge that Jesus came as a human being.

Such a person is a deceiver and an enemy of Christ.” Where would one expect to find the teaching that Jesus was not a true human being, “Born of the seed of Adam” which teaching has been spread ALL OVER THE WORLD.

So where do we look to find the source of the teachings of the Anti-Christ that has been spread all over the world?

By the second century, ‘Docetism,’ the concept that Jesus had existed as a spirit rather than a human being, had all but theoretically been stamped out. Yet there still persisted the belief that their Jesus, although seen as a sort of human being, did not have our normal bodily needs, such as eating, drinking and excretion, and Clement the bishop of Alexandria, wrote: “It would be ridiculous to imagine that the redeemer, in order to exist, had the usual needs of man. He only took food and ate it in order that we should not teach about him in a Docetic fashion.” Even though the scriptures state that it was because Jesus was hungry, that Satan tried to tempt him into turning the stones into bread.

Their Jesus was not the Jesus as taught by the apostles, but that other Jesus, taught by the Anti-Christ, who unlike we mere HUMAN BEINGS, did not need to eat, drink, or go to the toilet, as was taught by one of the great teachers that the authorities of Emperor Constantine’s universal church, used as one of their authorities when trying to defend their false doctrines.

Saint Clement of Alexandria, who was a saint in the Martyrology of the Roman universal church, in support of the great lie, speaks of the time that some imaginary midwife, who was supposed to be at the birth of Jesus, (Non-biblical) told some woman by the name Salome, that the mother was still a virgin after the birth and that her hymen was still intact, and that this supposed Salome, stuck her finger into the mother’s vagina to check, and her hand immediately withered up, but the baby Jesus reached out and touched her hand and healed it. (All non biblical).

Down to the 17th century, Clement was venerated as a saint. His name was to be found in the Martyrologies, and his feast fell on December 4. But when the Roman Martyrology was revised by Clement VIII (Pope from 1592 to 1605), his name was dropped from the calendar on the advice of his confessor, Cardinal Baronius. Pope Benedict XIV in 1748 maintained his predecessor's decision on the grounds that Clement’s life was little-known; that he had never obtained public cultus in the Church; and that some of his doctrines were, if not erroneous, at least highly suspect.

"ERRONEOUS--HIGHLY SUSPECT," they certainly got that right, but by then the false teaching of the so-called virgin birth had become firmly established in the minds of the gullible, and their minds are now so mixed up and set as hard as concrete, one would need a sledge hammer to crack them open and let the light of truth shine in.

https://thecatholicassociation.org/washington-times-the-strong-right-arm-of-the-catholic-church/

Your translation left out skeûos (vessel), which can refer to positive use or to low use (eg a urinal). In the context of Paul being fated to suffer, low use would be a better interpretation.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g4632/kjv/tr/0-1/


Which apostles? There were only twelve, and Matthias replaced Judas, not Paul. Revelation 21:14

Revelation does not name the twelve apostles that were chosen by Jesus.

The full list of the Twelve apostles chosen by Jesus, is as follows: Peter and Andrew, the sons of John; James and John, the sons of Zebedee; Philip; Bartholomew AKA Nathaniel; Matthew; Thomas; James the son of Alphaeus (Aramaic meaning, “Of a renown father”) AKA Cleophas (Greek meaning, "Of a renown father”) and Joseph (Hebrew, the son of Alexander Helios III); Jude AKA Thaddaeus and Lebbeaus, the Greek and Aramaic words for ‘courageous, who is the brother of James, See Jude 1; Simeon the Cananaean or the zealot; and Paul who was chosen by the glorified Jesus of Nazareth.

Matthais, who was not chosen by Jesus as one of his apostles, is mentioned only once in the scriptures, and is heard of no more.

There were only eleven apostles chosen by Jesus after Judas had committed suicide, until Jesus of Nazareth chose Saul, whose name was changed to Paul.

From Ballentine's Law Dictionary (1930)

human being: See MONSTER.

monster: A human being by birth, but in some part resembling a lower animal. A monster hath no inheritable blood, and cannot be heir to any land.

"the frailty, the imperfection, and the blindness of human reason" ~ Blackstone

But not as an apostle. Paul's account to Agrippa (Acts 26) contradicts the accounts of Acts 9 and 22 regarding where Paul learned of his role and what that role was. In his account to Agrippa Paul says that he was appointed as a minister and a witness while still on the road to Damascus, while according to Acts 9 there's no record of him being told directly, the implication being he learned of it from Ananias at Damascus.

Definition of apostle. 1 : one sent on a mission: such as one of the New Testament group sent out to preach the gospel and made up especially of Christ's 12 original disciples and Paul.

Christ’s original 12 disciples of which Matthias was not one, and Paul the son of a Benjaminite Father and a mother who was a citizen of Rome, who was chosen to replace Judas Iscariot the 12th who was destined to be lost, as was the 12th tribe of Israel lost, and Paul's mission was to gather in the number of Roman gentiles to replace the required number of the tribe of Benjamin as recorded in Revelation 7: 4-8.

Paul Tells of His Conversion: Acts 26: 12-18. NRSV.

“Thus, I journeyed to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests. At midday, O king, I saw on the way a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, shining round me and those who journeyed with me. And when we had all fallen to the ground, I heard a voice saying to me in the Hebrew language, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It hurts you to kick against the goads.’ And I said, ‘Who are you, Lord?’ And the Lord said, ‘I am Jesus whom you are persecuting. But rise and stand upon your feet; for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to appoint you to serve and bear witness to the things in which you have seen me 'and to those in which I will appear to you,' (Ananias was one of they, in who Jesus appeared to Saul) delivering you from the people and from the Gentiles—to whom I send you to open their eyes, that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’

Special pleading.

From Strongs G652:
1. a delegate, messenger, one sent forth with orders
2. ... With these apostles Paul claimed equality, because through a heavenly intervention he had been appointed by the ascended Christ himself to preach the gospel among the Gentiles

Meaning 1 doesn't include Paul because when he was sent to Damascus he wasn't given any orders.
Meaning 2 isn't valid because it's based on only on Paul's testimony, and that testimony is contradicted by Paul himself (Acts 26 vs Acts 22).

Further, there's circumstantial evidence that Paul was among the group of false apostles who were rejected at Ephesus. (Revelation 2:1-2, Acts 19:8-9)

Contradictions between Paul's account to Agrippa and the account in Acts 9:



9:4 And he fell to the earth
9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless



9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

Paul was sent forth by Jesus to the Israelites and the gentiles to open their eyes, that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in HIM.’



Correct!



Saul first journeyed to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests to search out and arrest the Christians there. But after he was chosen by Jesus as his apostle, he was ordered to rise up and go into Damascus where Jesus from within Ananias would tell him what he must do.

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The first account of Paul’s conversion in chapter 9, is recorded by Paul’s traveling companion, Luke, who said in Acts 1:1-2; Dear Theophilus: In my first book (The Gospel of Luke) I wrote about all the things that Jesus did and taught from the time he began his work until the day he was taken up to heaven. Before he was taken up, he gave instructions by the power of the Holy Spirit to the men he had chosen as his apostles. ----- This makes the account valid.

The second account is told by Paul himself, and Paul’s account does not contradict Luke’s account.



And that’s a load of BS.



Paul’s account to King Agrippa, “And when we had all fallen to the ground.”

Luke’s account Acts 9:4; “And He (Paul) fell to the earth.” No contradiction there Paul did fall to the ground.

Acts 9: 7; And after Jesus had told him to get up on his feet, the men which journeyed with him stood Speechless. No contradiction there either, Paul with his companions all fell to the Ground and when Paul got back on his feet, his companions would have also stood up.



If I were to read two accounts of the one event, which were written word for word exactly the same, I would be extremely suspicious and doubt that they were actually both eye witness accounts, but rather believe that one was no more than a copy of the other.

If four people who had witnessed a robbery or an accident, were asked to fill out a statement recording the event according to their point of view, do you honestly believe that any two would be word for word the same?

The only actual contradiction you will find between Luke’s account and Paul’s account as they are recorded in English, is where in Acts 9:7; it is said; (The men who were travelling with Saul had stopped, not saying a word; they heard the voice but could not see anyone.}

Whereas in Paul’s account in Acts 22: 9; it is written; (The men with me saw the light, but did not hear the voice of the one who was speaking to me.)
So, Luke’s account says that the men heard the voice, whereas Paul’s account say that the men did not hear the voice.

But the Greek term “akouo”, which is used in both accounts to mean “HEAR” and “HEARD” can mean, [To hear what has been said, or to understand that which was said.]

When we look to 1st Corinthians 14: 2; we find there, that it is written, "The one who speaks in strange tongues does not speak to others but to God, because no one, “akouo” = “UNDERSTANDS” him." The Greek "akouo" is here translated as "Understand" and so Acts 9:7; reveals that the men who were with Paul heard the voice, but Acts 22: 9; reveals that they did hear the voice, but did not understand what the voice they heard was saying.

That's a statement of faith. It's unsupported as truth because Paul contradicts himself about it.

And where in your erroneous opinion do you believe that Paul contradicts himself?

That's not a valid question. I covered this before.

https://able2know.org/topic/569034-2#post-7223196

No you didn't, all you did was to make erroneous assertion’s. Paul did not contradict himself.

Paul contradicted himself between Acts 22 and Acts 26. In Acts 22 he says that he was told to go to Damascus for instructions, but in Acts 26 he tells Agrippa that he was appointed as a minister and witness while he was still on the road. Where do you think the error is?

And where in Acts 26 does Paul say that he was appointed by Jesus as a minister and witness while he was still on the road to Damascus, before he was confronted with the light of the glorified Jesus?

You've already posted the text from Acts 26. Why are you only now having a problem understanding it?

Because there is no problem there, there is no contradiction, only in the mind of one who is blinded to the truth.

If there is no problem, then why would you ask a question relating to Paul before he saw the light on the road to Damascus, when all the relevant events happened after he saw the light?