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Medicare For All March Saturday July 24

 
 
Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2021 08:28 am
I have been accused of demanding pie in the sky for years because I support spending our own money, the taxes collected from us and nobody else, on us instead of giving it away free to the rich, the military, and anybody but the poor undeserving owners of our money - us. We are the only developed nation on Earth without free medical care. Those who say we can't afford it are the same ones who are fine with spending billions at a whim on non citizen oriented programs and outright giveaways. Red and blue, they say no. Tomorrow is a chance to give an even bigger YES. Multiple cities are going to see these demonstrations tomorrow. They will be misbranded by opponents as usual, but that's no excuse to not know it's doable once the politicians get the right message.
 
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2021 08:37 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6_MYYXVUAUphGd?format=jpg&name=900x900
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2021 09:04 am
Pushing for this despite the fact I haven't been to a doctor in probably 20 years.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2021 10:29 am
There are more locations than those listed above. Best to check locally for the others.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2021 11:00 am
@edgarblythe,
I was going to say, the nearest to you looked like Albuquerque, that’s a bit of a trek.

Universal Health Care has never been affordable it has always been impossible until it happens.

The same naysayers said the same about the NHS. It was one of the first post war pieces of legislation when Britain still had rationing. Actually rationing was worse in the immediate post war period than it was during the war.

Britain was in ruins with a huge war debt to pay off. (Finally paid off when Tony Blair was pm.) Bevin was said to have complained about filling the doctor’s mouths with gold.

Yet despite all that it went through, and is now a national institution. It’s popular across the board, and no politician would want to appear to be against it.

No serious politician anyway. I think Nigel Farage May be against it, but he’s not a serious politician anymore. There are no European elections any more, and nobody trusts those idiots to run the country.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2021 11:09 am
I would love to join the March. I am currently outside of the US. I will be there in spirit.

At some point the US health system will break down. We should fix it before we reach that point.
Mame
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2021 11:32 am
@izzythepush,
I read an article on this in the last couple of days (I may be able to find it) that mentioned that the majority of 'known' personal debt (I think it was $140 Bn) in the US was due to medical reasons. They say 'known' because this was only from collection agencies and did not include people paying via payment plans, credit cards, etc. The article also discussed how having a national medicare scheme actually benefited everyone, including the government. I'll have to see if I can find that article. I should start bookmarking these things.

Edit:

here it is
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/20/upshot/medical-debt-americans-medicaid.html
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2021 12:09 pm
Even Libya has us beat in some ways.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_in_Libya
Mame
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2021 12:12 pm
@edgarblythe,
And there's no reason (other than big fat Pharma) we all couldn't do this:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6044260/

"...NZ insures 100% of its population. In 1993, NZ implemented a national pharmacare program (the Pharmaceutical Management Agency [PHARMAC]), whereby one body negotiates and controls drug pricing within the country for the entire population (PHARMAC 2017). The Pharmacology and Therapeutics Advisory Committee is the only organization that oversees the national pharmaceutical HTA. From 2006 to 2014, the PHARMAC saved the District Health Boards (DHBs) $2.87 billion, resulting in a total expenditure of $5.33 billion (in 2014 dollars) (OECD 2017; PHARMAC 2016)."

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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2021 08:48 am
There will be a gathering in my area. One time participant on a2k, PDiddie will be there. My situation does not allow for getting out like that or I would be there.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2021 09:37 am
We are beneath third-world countries because of this national disgrace. We must get past the barbarians of right-wing America...and bring out nation into the 21st Century regarding universal healthcare.

And while we are at it, we should be extending that care to include dental care...and hearing and sight aids.

We should collectively be ashamed of ourselves for where we are right now on this issue.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2021 11:13 am
I would hope it would be all inclusive, plus cut out the insurance companies, whose one goal is our money, which means to them profiteering without offering a single product.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2021 12:44 pm
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2021 01:07 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Health care is a basic human right. I've heard a lot of horror stories about medical costs in the US... doctors charging patients with no insurance exorbitant amounts, but next to nothing if the charges go to an insurance company.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2021 01:21 pm
@Mame,
Mame wrote:

Health care is a basic human right. I've heard a lot of horror stories about medical costs in the US... doctors charging patients with no insurance exorbitant amounts, but next to nothing if the charges go to an insurance company.


"Horror stories" implies fiction...sorta.

Nothing fictional about the stories you've heard. Our healthcare system is behind third-world.

But...we have to deal with American right-wingers. Real garbage there!
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2021 02:07 pm
Just search online news services. I just looked at Google news and Drudge Report and Drudger retort without finding a single mention of M4A marches.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2021 05:43 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

Just search online news services. I just looked at Google news and Drudge Report and Drudger retort without finding a single mention of M4A marches.

PDiddie said
The corporate media is owned by Big Pharma. They got an order, and they followed it.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2021 06:47 am
Because nobody seems interested in a topic like this I am mulling starting a thread on the failures of our system here in the USA and it's going to skewer just about everyone. I realize most a2kers who write about politics have decided not to engage with me, but that's okay if they don't want to. I have been relatively docile during Joe Biden's first six months, but that's going to end.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2021 07:36 am
@edgarblythe,
No mention on the BBC website either. The headline is the one person still unaccounted for in the Florida building collapse.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2021 10:37 am
@izzythepush,
Corporate media has been ordered into silence. Corporate power has somehow intimidated the elected progressives. They have suddenly become submissive. I don't believe their minds are changed, but some kind of threat worked on them.
 

 
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