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Millions of people believe that cheating played a big role in the 2020 election and I'm one of them.

I don't blame you for coming to this conclusion since you probably hear it on a near daily basis from friends and particular media sources. But there's an explanation. Republicans have a difficult time electing presidents and consistently fail to win the popular vote. If they can't grow their constituency they need to reduce the voting power of their opposition. Complaints about electoral fraud by Republican aren't new, and there are always isolated cases of dead people on voting lists, a misplaced folder full of ballots, or some guy altering his wife's absentee ballot to give some credence to the claims. But the sort of widespread carefully coordinated fraud claimed to have happened in '20 is simply too far-fetched to be believable. That's why all the cases have been thrown out of court.

Let me pose two questions:

1. During his whole term, Trump's popularity never broke 50% and was usually in the low to mid 40s — and that's the percentage of the vote he received in '20. Why would you expect his ratings to suddenly climb above his historic level of approval?

2. If the Democrats were able to change the results in the 2020 election why didn't they also gain more seats in Congress? What would be the sense in making Biden president but not giving him the support he'd need in order to make good on his promises and put his plans into action? If they were smart enough to change results at the top of the ticket, why didn't they apply their techniques to lower level races and give Biden a commanding majority?

We’ve always had the option of postal voting.

I’ve never had to show id to vote either.

I don’t live in a fascist state.

Who issues your id?

Who decides who is allowed to vote?

It’s fascism pure and simple, you want to deny people who are not like you the right to vote.

At least be honest.

Now, now sweetheart.

maxdancona wrote:

Now, now sweetheart.

Doesn't matter what thread you go into, you try your best to insult women. You are the most condescending jerk I've met on here in a long time. And no, you haven't worked me up, sorry - you've just shown everyone who you are.

hightor wrote:

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Millions of people believe that cheating played a big role in the 2020 election and I'm one of them.

I don't blame you for coming to this conclusion since you probably hear it on a near daily basis from friends and particular media sources. But there's an explanation. Republicans have a difficult time electing presidents and consistently fail to win the popular vote. If they can't grow their constituency they need to reduce the voting power of their opposition. Complaints about electoral fraud by Republican aren't new, and there are always isolated cases of dead people on voting lists, a misplaced folder full of ballots, or some guy altering his wife's absentee ballot to give some credence to the claims. But the sort of widespread carefully coordinated fraud claimed to have happened in '20 is simply too far-fetched to be believable. That's why all the cases have been thrown out of court.

Really? Specifically which cases were thrown out due to lack of merit as opposed to lack of standing or other technical grounds? Giuliani has hundreds of affidavits from people who witnessed fraud. In which specific court cases was he allowed to introduce them into evidence?

hightor wrote:

Let me pose two questions:

1. During his whole term, Trump's popularity never broke 50% and was usually in the low to mid 40s — and that's the percentage of the vote he received in '20. Why would you expect his ratings to suddenly climb above his historic level of approval?

2. If the Democrats were able to change the results in the 2020 election why didn't they also gain more seats in Congress? What would be the sense in making Biden president but not giving him the support he'd need in order to make good on his promises and put his plans into action? If they were smart enough to change results at the top of the ticket, why didn't they apply their techniques to lower level races and give Biden a commanding majority?

For #1 - Prior to the 2016 election, the polls all said that Trump was going down to an historic defeat. I don't know how you can mess up a poll, but apparently they can. Anyway, I'm not claiming he would have won by a landslide or anything like that - only that there was probably a lot of cheating.

For #2 - I would imagine the cheaters didn't fix all of the Congressional races in addition to the presidential race because they simply didn't have the bandwidth. I suspect major cheating and I think it must have been lots of different groups doing it.

You’re being dishonest, people are not automatically entitled to postal votes like they are over here there are conditions that need to be satisfied.

Can’t say I’m surprised. Lies are all you have.

People are not automatically entitled to postal votes, they have to fulfil certain criteria.

Cherry picking. People are not automatically entitled to postal votes, they have to fulfil certain criteria.

You know that’s true but instead of acknowledging it you try to slow things down. Instead of debating your electoral system you want me to spend all my time fact checking something you already know.

It’s called sealioning and it’s sneaky. At least I know there’s no point talking to you because you’d rather live in a fantasy world than deal with reality.