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The Derek Chauvin Trial

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 06:00 pm
@edgarblythe,
I don’t think I’d ever known this about you, Ed. That ‘single mindedness’ thing makes sense, when I look back.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 06:04 pm
@snood,
Oddly, I didn't figure it out until I was deep into writing a novelized semi-autobiography. Suddenly, like in The Wizard of Oz movie, the world changed from black and white to color.
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BillW
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 07:05 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:

Uh huh...so once again, not able to reason your beliefs out. Neither for your position, nor against my statements

And no - substanceless chants don't count as reasoning.

Quote:
not able to reason
is a reason to not believe a single thing a witness says!
BillW
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 07:07 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

oralloy wrote:

I was actually thinking of those blackwater guys. But it is possible that this guy was railroaded too.


"those blackwater guys" were mercenaries, they were not US military.

And, therefore had 0 license to kill, much less kill illegally for even a professional soldier!
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 07:08 pm
@BillW,
That is incorrect. Mercenaries have the right to engage in combat so long as they adhere to the laws of war.

And there was nothing illegal about any of their acts.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 07:09 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:
Quote:
not able to reason
is a reason to not believe a single thing a witness says!

Note that it's only the progressives here who are unable to reason.

I would not go so far as to automatically reject whatever progressives say however. Their views should continue to be rejected based on the merits (or rather lack thereof) of their position.
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BillW
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 07:11 pm
@snood,
The defense lawyer and prosecution get to see it all. The problem is, you have to have a defendant 1st and a prosecution that wants to convict <sigh>!
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 02:37 am
@snood,
Agreed, the absence of any sense of humour, the severely limited vocabulary and a restricted amount of cut and paste responses are proof the party in question has intelligence far below that of the average hominid.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 03:56 am
@izzythepush,
Your lies about me will not change the reality that it is you who has the substandard IQ.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 04:05 am
And yet another cut and paste job proves my point.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 04:07 am
@izzythepush,
Your lies don't prove anything at all, except perhaps that you are lying.
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 05:09 am
@izzythepush,
Beware, Izzy. Lest the fearsome genius unleashes upon you one of his classic and devastating arguments, pulled from a voluminous catalogue of 2 or 3 withering attacks, like the dreaded “I’m not stupid - you’re stupid!”.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 05:44 am
@snood,
I don’t bother reading him, it’s not like you don’t already know what he’s written. It’s like watching endless reruns of bored to ****.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 08:27 am
@izzythepush,
If you two don't like that the conversation gets dragged down to your level, then stop dragging the conversation down to your level.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 01:04 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

If you two don't like that the conversation gets dragged down to your level, then stop dragging the conversation down to your level.


No one is talking about you, you puffed up peacock....They are talking about boring, tedious people. Do you consider yourself boring and tedious?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 01:34 pm
@glitterbag,
I can’t speak for Snood but I enjoy conversation, the free flowing exchange of ideas and all that carry on.

That’s why I don’t bother with the cut and paste monkey.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 03:15 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
No one is talking about you,

You're lying again. You guys are trying to blame me for the fact that you guys always drag the conversation down to your level.

And once again, this topic is to complex for you to understand anyway. You'd be better off canning the lies and moving on to a simpler subject that you can more easily comprehend.
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vikorr
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 06:40 pm
I see oralloy that yet again you haven't contributed much of substance - just blather that equates to 'the black person was in the wrong'....not surprisingly, just like every single other thread you've posted in, where there is any conflict between white & black people.

The situation in the US is rather different to here in the US. Here, my observations have been that the greatest overt discrimination occurs from specific minorities towards white australians. Being black Australian, I grew up in what newspapers used to call "the most racist town in Australia"...but in 18years, experienced it just the once myself (in school by a teenager too stupid to get his race insults correct). Yet I saw a great deal of racism from the local minority towards white Australians. This of course doesn't mean there isn't institutionalised racism in Australia - there is. It means that all parties are capable of racism, rather than just one party.

You appear to think racism (and it's problems) only ever travels in one direction, and the black person is always in the wrong (at least, in every such discussion that has been the case so far). Often enough, there has been something that both sides could have been done better...but you never insist on the white people improving, only the black people.

If you have ever said white people could improve (in conflict with black people situations), I haven't seen it, or it was tokenistic enough not to recall it.

From what I can see - black people in the US are right to be cautious, and even fearful of police, particularly if they are alone.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 07:52 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
I see oralloy that yet again you haven't contributed much of substance

There's not much for anyone to contribute after you drag the conversation down to your level.

I won't accuse you of being as dumb as snood or glitterbag, but you are one of those people where the best possible contribution that you can make to a conversation is to stay silent.
vikorr
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 10:33 pm
@oralloy,
That is quite likely. I don't buy the avoidance nonsense many people engage in to arrive at flawed conclusions - particularly when they engage in hypocrisy, or pretend to be more intelligent than others. It's okay to be average or dumb and use flawed arguments...much less acceptable to claim to be intelligent while using flawed arguments / engaging in avoidance etc. And it's never okay to be a hypocrite / engage in double standards while using flawed arguments. That by the way, is a generalised statement covering everything/everyone...not applicable to everything you say, but obviously applying to many things you say.

Years ago, you used to present understandable arguments. I didn't agree with a lot of them, and they were still flawed... but you made them, and I understood them. But recently, in pressing you for your underlying reasons, I've found your underlying reasoning is seriously flawed, and you don't want to look at such closely. Being unwilling to look at your own underlying reasons is rather different from just plain flawed reasoning. Sure I think there are reasons for it, but we can still choose to force ourselves to think about these things. That part, you are more than intelligent enough to do.
 

 
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