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Fri 15 Jul, 2005 05:26 pm
Number, we universally voice, has no limit. We must assert this if we are to assume that number carries on indefinitely, or can be defined by the term 'infinite'.
But number is always the statement of a limit. 5 stops at 5, for example. By this we mean that five is the act of counting made five times. So to describe the act of 'counting to infinity' we must make the act of counting indefinitely. However, 'indefinitely' leaves us without a limit for any particular number. So an infinite number is not a number.
Therefore, as there are no swings of an axe that has not been swung, so with number. There is no number that is a number that has not been counted by the act of counting. Accordingly, I am entitled to say that it is a true statement that the largest number is five, if I have counted to five.
It follows that I can confidently make the claim that the largest number is five, and assert that this claim is true.
Yes.
Now count the fingers on your other hand.
joe(very interesting)nation
According to my sources (Sesame Street), the largest number is twelve. 123 4-5, 678 9-10, 11 12.
subtleone wrote:According to my sources (Sesame Street), the largest number is twelve. 123 4-5, 678 9-10, 11 12.
1 2 3, 4 5 6, 7 8 9, 10 11 12,
ladybugs came, to the ladybug picnic.
1 2 3, 4 5 6, 7 8 9, 10 11 12,
and they all played games,
at the ladybug picnic
They had 12 sacks so they had sack races,
and they fell on their backs and they fell on their faces.
Ladybugs 12, at the ladybug picnic,
They played jump rope but the jump rope broke,
so they all said around telling knock knock jokes,
Ladybugs 12, at the ladybug picnic.
They talked about the high price of furniture and rugs,
and fire insurance for lady bugs.
Ladybugs 12, at the ladybug picnic.
TWELVE.
IT'S A LOVELY ELEVEN MORNING
It's a lovely eleven morning
I heard eleven worms yawning (yawn)
I saw eleven cows sleeping 'midst the buttercups
I said, How's the cottage cheese?
And they said, Oh, dry up!
Oh!
Eleven little birdies in the trees
Bright yellow beaks and pinky knees
Eleven chicks hatching
Eleven cats scratching
Eleven's the number for me
Eleven ducklings quacking
(quack-quack-quack)
Eleven pigs, lips smacking
One two three four five six
Seven eight nine ten eleven
Eleven's the number for me
Don't you see?
Eleven's the number for me!
------------
A number 10 from Tennessee
Kissed a blueberry-beaked budgie
And after that he lay in bed
While ten blueberries grew on his head
(counts as the blueberries pop out all over the number 10)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
The doctor said "I have a cure
Stay in bed for ten days more."
(counts off the days on the calendar)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
When that old ten felt well again
He jumped and counted one to ten
(The number ten flexes his muscles then jumps on his bed)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
Now, number ten will always love
All creatures great and small
But he will never kiss another
Fruit-flavored animal
(as each number is counted off, weird fruit-shaped animals pop up)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
----------
She's my real martian beauty
She's my number nine cutie
She has nine hairs on her head
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Tied up in ribbons of red
She has nine little eyes
All the same size
Looking up, down, round, and straight ahead
She has nine little holes in her turned up nose
And she snores when she goes to bed
She has nine arms that's one of her charms,
Each just like the other;
Some people say she looks like her dad;
Some say she looks like her mother.
She has 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 little toes on her foot.
She doesn't go shoppin'
'Cause she doesn't like hoppin',
So usually she just stays put.
---------
The Land of Eight
Once upon a time in The Land of Eight,
There stood a castle, very great.
Eight flags were waving in the air
For the King of Eight had put them there.
A muted trumpet blows: Doot,do do do do do do
Doot,do do do do do do
Doot,do do do do do do
Doot doot do
King of Eight speaks: (has the voice of Rowlf the dog)
I'm the King of Eight,
And I'm here to state
That everything here must number eight,
The guards, for instance, by the gate
Must always number exactly eight.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
King continues: In my castle, in back of me,
Are eight windows you can see.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
In these windows are my daughters,
Show yourselves, my dears.
(each princess calls out her number): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
Each princess wears a golden crown,
With eight jewels going 'round.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
So I love eight,
Eight is great,
Eight is the number I do not...
King's messenger blurts out: WAIT!!!
Important news comes from the Queen,
A new baby! And I have seen,
That she is well, and doing fine.
King says: Good grief, that's princess number nine
-----------
One two three four five six seven!
Said the Alligator King to his seven sons,
"I'm feelin' mighty down.
Whichever of you can cheer me up
Will get to wear my crown."
His first son brought seven oyster pearls
From the bottom of the China Sea.
The second gave him seven statues of girls
With clocks where their stomachs should be.
The third son gave him seven rubies
From the sheikdom Down There Beneath.
The King thought the rubies were cherries,
And he broke off seven of his teeth.
The fourth son tried to cheer him up
With seven lemon drops.
The King said, "I'm sorry son,
Since that ruby episode, I just haven't got the chops."
The fifth son brought the King perfume
In seven fancy silver jars;
The King took a whiff, and he broke out in spots
'Cause it smelled like cheap cigars.
The sixth son gave him seven diamond rings
To wear upon his toes.
The King snagged his foot on the royal red rug
And crumpled up his nose.
The seventh son of the Alligator King
Was a thoughtful little whelp.
He said, "Daddy, appears to me
That you could use a little help."
Said the Alligator King to his seventh son,
"My son, you win the crown.
You didn't bring me diamonds or rubies, but
You helped me up when I was down.
Take the crown; it's yours, my son.
I hope you don't mind the dents.
I got it on sale at a discount store-
Cost me all of seven cents!"
Seven!
---------
The Land of Six
In the garden of the Queen of Six
Is where the Queen gets her kicks
Walking on her path of bricks
Shaped into a number six
The Queen knows lots of magic tricks
Like making trees from candlesticks
One, two, three, four, five, six
Six birds, as you can see
Make six nests in each tree
One, two, three, four, five, six
Within these nests of twigs and sticks
Are six little hungry baby chicks
One, two, three, four, five, six
In the garden down below
Is where six magic flowers grow
One, two, three, four, five, six
Six little kittens play nearby
As the Queen sings a lullaby
One, two, three, four, five, six
The Queen makes up six little beds
And there the kittens lay their heads
One, two, three, four, five, six
And dream their dreams of magic tricks
That all end up with the number six
--------
Who says five friends can't have fun?
Who says five's not as good as one?
Who says, "Two is company; five's a mob"?
Gotta tell ya!
Someone who says five's too much should get a job
Playing basketball!
Who says five's not a real great time?
We think five is quite sublime.
See us walk!
And hear us talk!
We most emphatically gotta squawk
About bein' and feelin' alive ...
And five!
-------------------
I Just Adore Four
I just adore four
The number for me
You can't deplore four
It's less than five, more than three
You can have four doors
Or four dinosaurs
Four janitors
Or even four grocery stores
I just adore four
The number sublime
I love to draw four
It's just an angle and a line
I can't get sore for it's plain you see
I just adore four
The number for me
Ah, yes, I used to fret a lot and fidget
Until I met that dazzling digit
And now you see a brand new me for
I found a number I can be for
And count 1, 2, 3, for (or 4)
I just adore four
The number for me
You can't deplore four
It's less than five, more than three
You can have four floors
Or four army corps
Four dresser drawers
Or even four crashing bores
I just adore four
The number sublime
I love to draw four
It's just an angle and a line
I can't get sore for it's plain you see
I just adore four
The number ...
1, 2, 3 ....
For me!
------------
Three bears in the bed, and the little one said
"I'm crowded, roll over"
So they all rolled over and one fell out
Two bears in the bed, and the little one said
"I'm crowded, roll over"
So they all rolled over and one fell out
One bear in the bed, and the little one said
"I'm lonely"
--------------------
Oh, the number one is not my favorite number (why?)
'Cause one means only me and there's no you
But one plus one you see
Makes two, that's you and me
And it's more fun when one and one make two
Oh, one and one make two
At least I'm pretty sure they do
Oh yes it's true
One and one make two
Now, say you want to play upon a seesaw
You're all alone and don't know what to do
Well, just go and find a friend
And he'll sit on the other end
You'll have more fun when one and one make two
Oh, one and one make two
At least I'm pretty sure they do
Oh yes it's true
One and one make two
Now, everyone needs somebody to share with
A pal to help and care for through and through
And there's no one that I've known
Who can do those things alone
It's a lot nicer when one and one make two
Oh, one and one make two
At least I'm pretty sure they do
Oh yes it's true
One and one make two
One and one make two
At least I'm pretty sure they do
Oh yes it's true
One and one make two
------------------
Every song the
World sings, each
Was once unknown
Somebody felt a song
Inside and wasn't
Afraid to sing alone
If you feel the music
And you sing it clear
And true
Then the world can
Sing with you
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
Start with one small
Voice till another
Sings along
And then you'll feel the
Music growing full and
Sure and strong
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
No tune is too simple
No voice can
Be wrong
Music can come from
Any heart and anyone's
Voice can lead
The song
If you feel the music
And if you believe
The words
Sing and you'll
Be heard
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
Start with one small
Voice till another
Sings along
And then you'll feel the
Music growing full and
Sure and strong
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
Start with one small
Voice till another
Sings along
And then you'll feel the
Music growing full and
Sure and strong
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
Joe Nation wrote:Yes.
Now count the fingers on your other hand.
joe(very interesting)nation
I counted the fingers on both hands and arrived at 10. Therefore, ten is the largest number. But my previous claim that five is the largest number is also true. There is no contradiction.
There are some of us who can count to 21... even with our pants on!
Brandon9000 wrote:How do you explain 5.1?
I counted in steps of .1 to 5.1. Therefore, the largest number is 5.1. This does not contradict my claim that five is the largest number.
Chai Tea wrote:IT'S A LOVELY ELEVEN MORNING
It's a lovely eleven morning
I heard eleven worms yawning (yawn)
I saw eleven cows sleeping 'midst the buttercups
I said, How's the cottage cheese?
And they said, Oh, dry up!
Oh!
Eleven little birdies in the trees
Bright yellow beaks and pinky knees
Eleven chicks hatching
Eleven cats scratching
Eleven's the number for me
Eleven ducklings quacking
(quack-quack-quack)
Eleven pigs, lips smacking
One two three four five six
Seven eight nine ten eleven
Eleven's the number for me
Don't you see?
Eleven's the number for me!
------------
A number 10 from Tennessee
Kissed a blueberry-beaked budgie
And after that he lay in bed
While ten blueberries grew on his head
(counts as the blueberries pop out all over the number 10)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
The doctor said "I have a cure
Stay in bed for ten days more."
(counts off the days on the calendar)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
When that old ten felt well again
He jumped and counted one to ten
(The number ten flexes his muscles then jumps on his bed)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
Now, number ten will always love
All creatures great and small
But he will never kiss another
Fruit-flavored animal
(as each number is counted off, weird fruit-shaped animals pop up)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
----------
She's my real martian beauty
She's my number nine cutie
She has nine hairs on her head
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Tied up in ribbons of red
She has nine little eyes
All the same size
Looking up, down, round, and straight ahead
She has nine little holes in her turned up nose
And she snores when she goes to bed
She has nine arms that's one of her charms,
Each just like the other;
Some people say she looks like her dad;
Some say she looks like her mother.
She has 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 little toes on her foot.
She doesn't go shoppin'
'Cause she doesn't like hoppin',
So usually she just stays put.
---------
The Land of Eight
Once upon a time in The Land of Eight,
There stood a castle, very great.
Eight flags were waving in the air
For the King of Eight had put them there.
A muted trumpet blows: Doot,do do do do do do
Doot,do do do do do do
Doot,do do do do do do
Doot doot do
King of Eight speaks: (has the voice of Rowlf the dog)
I'm the King of Eight,
And I'm here to state
That everything here must number eight,
The guards, for instance, by the gate
Must always number exactly eight.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
King continues: In my castle, in back of me,
Are eight windows you can see.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
In these windows are my daughters,
Show yourselves, my dears.
(each princess calls out her number): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
Each princess wears a golden crown,
With eight jewels going 'round.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
So I love eight,
Eight is great,
Eight is the number I do not...
King's messenger blurts out: WAIT!!!
Important news comes from the Queen,
A new baby! And I have seen,
That she is well, and doing fine.
King says: Good grief, that's princess number nine
-----------
One two three four five six seven!
Said the Alligator King to his seven sons,
"I'm feelin' mighty down.
Whichever of you can cheer me up
Will get to wear my crown."
His first son brought seven oyster pearls
From the bottom of the China Sea.
The second gave him seven statues of girls
With clocks where their stomachs should be.
The third son gave him seven rubies
From the sheikdom Down There Beneath.
The King thought the rubies were cherries,
And he broke off seven of his teeth.
The fourth son tried to cheer him up
With seven lemon drops.
The King said, "I'm sorry son,
Since that ruby episode, I just haven't got the chops."
The fifth son brought the King perfume
In seven fancy silver jars;
The King took a whiff, and he broke out in spots
'Cause it smelled like cheap cigars.
The sixth son gave him seven diamond rings
To wear upon his toes.
The King snagged his foot on the royal red rug
And crumpled up his nose.
The seventh son of the Alligator King
Was a thoughtful little whelp.
He said, "Daddy, appears to me
That you could use a little help."
Said the Alligator King to his seventh son,
"My son, you win the crown.
You didn't bring me diamonds or rubies, but
You helped me up when I was down.
Take the crown; it's yours, my son.
I hope you don't mind the dents.
I got it on sale at a discount store-
Cost me all of seven cents!"
Seven!
---------
The Land of Six
In the garden of the Queen of Six
Is where the Queen gets her kicks
Walking on her path of bricks
Shaped into a number six
The Queen knows lots of magic tricks
Like making trees from candlesticks
One, two, three, four, five, six
Six birds, as you can see
Make six nests in each tree
One, two, three, four, five, six
Within these nests of twigs and sticks
Are six little hungry baby chicks
One, two, three, four, five, six
In the garden down below
Is where six magic flowers grow
One, two, three, four, five, six
Six little kittens play nearby
As the Queen sings a lullaby
One, two, three, four, five, six
The Queen makes up six little beds
And there the kittens lay their heads
One, two, three, four, five, six
And dream their dreams of magic tricks
That all end up with the number six
--------
Who says five friends can't have fun?
Who says five's not as good as one?
Who says, "Two is company; five's a mob"?
Gotta tell ya!
Someone who says five's too much should get a job
Playing basketball!
Who says five's not a real great time?
We think five is quite sublime.
See us walk!
And hear us talk!
We most emphatically gotta squawk
About bein' and feelin' alive ...
And five!
-------------------
I Just Adore Four
I just adore four
The number for me
You can't deplore four
It's less than five, more than three
You can have four doors
Or four dinosaurs
Four janitors
Or even four grocery stores
I just adore four
The number sublime
I love to draw four
It's just an angle and a line
I can't get sore for it's plain you see
I just adore four
The number for me
Ah, yes, I used to fret a lot and fidget
Until I met that dazzling digit
And now you see a brand new me for
I found a number I can be for
And count 1, 2, 3, for (or 4)
I just adore four
The number for me
You can't deplore four
It's less than five, more than three
You can have four floors
Or four army corps
Four dresser drawers
Or even four crashing bores
I just adore four
The number sublime
I love to draw four
It's just an angle and a line
I can't get sore for it's plain you see
I just adore four
The number ...
1, 2, 3 ....
For me!
------------
Three bears in the bed, and the little one said
"I'm crowded, roll over"
So they all rolled over and one fell out
Two bears in the bed, and the little one said
"I'm crowded, roll over"
So they all rolled over and one fell out
One bear in the bed, and the little one said
"I'm lonely"
--------------------
Oh, the number one is not my favorite number (why?)
'Cause one means only me and there's no you
But one plus one you see
Makes two, that's you and me
And it's more fun when one and one make two
Oh, one and one make two
At least I'm pretty sure they do
Oh yes it's true
One and one make two
Now, say you want to play upon a seesaw
You're all alone and don't know what to do
Well, just go and find a friend
And he'll sit on the other end
You'll have more fun when one and one make two
Oh, one and one make two
At least I'm pretty sure they do
Oh yes it's true
One and one make two
Now, everyone needs somebody to share with
A pal to help and care for through and through
And there's no one that I've known
Who can do those things alone
It's a lot nicer when one and one make two
Oh, one and one make two
At least I'm pretty sure they do
Oh yes it's true
One and one make two
One and one make two
At least I'm pretty sure they do
Oh yes it's true
One and one make two
------------------
Every song the
World sings, each
Was once unknown
Somebody felt a song
Inside and wasn't
Afraid to sing alone
If you feel the music
And you sing it clear
And true
Then the world can
Sing with you
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
Start with one small
Voice till another
Sings along
And then you'll feel the
Music growing full and
Sure and strong
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
No tune is too simple
No voice can
Be wrong
Music can come from
Any heart and anyone's
Voice can lead
The song
If you feel the music
And if you believe
The words
Sing and you'll
Be heard
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
Start with one small
Voice till another
Sings along
And then you'll feel the
Music growing full and
Sure and strong
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
Start with one small
Voice till another
Sings along
And then you'll feel the
Music growing full and
Sure and strong
One small voice can
Teach the world a song
You are the beast master.
We are the mandrill back-spoonists.
Let the umbrella's commence.
Chai Tea wrote:1 2 3, 4 5 6, 7 8 9, 10 11 12,
ladybugs came, to the ladybug picnic.
1 2 3, 4 5 6, 7 8 9, 10 11 12,
and they all played games,
at the ladybug picnic
They had 12 sacks so they had sack races,
and they fell on their backs and they fell on their faces.
Ladybugs 12, at the ladybug picnic,
They played jump rope but the jump rope broke,
so they all said around telling knock knock jokes,
Ladybugs 12, at the ladybug picnic.
They talked about the high price of furniture and rugs,
and fire insurance for lady bugs.
Ladybugs 12, at the ladybug picnic.
TWELVE.
Boy, am I impressed...frightened...turned-on...
John jones, have you been talking to the goldfish again?
Quote:One small voice can
Teach the world a song
Start with one small Voice
till another Sings along
Proceed geometrically to the largest number.
Joe(I'd like to buy the world a Coke)Nation
Cyracuz wrote:John jones, have you been talking to the goldfish again?
Ernie: My ice cube collection is missing! All that left is some water!
Bert: Do you know what that means Ernie!?
Ernie: Yeah! Some dirty fish stole my ice cube colllection!
The set of natural numbers is a set with the smallest ordinal.
1st < 2nd < 3rd < 4th < ...< nth < ... <omega(the first infinity)
[/quote]
You are the beast master.
We are the mandrill back-spoonists.
Let the umbrella's commence.[/quote]
I cant'. I not supposed to stay up past 10pm
Have you ducks ever quashed the meridian?
satt_fs wrote:The set of natural numbers is a set with the smallest ordinal.
1st < 2nd < 3rd < 4th < ...< nth < ... <omega(the first infinity)
Numbers that are in a set are not numbers but numerals.
Do I have to count, though? If I count 10 meters, and then figure that that is, by definition, 10,000 millimeters, do I have to count to 10,000 to know that it exists?
patiodog wrote:Do I have to count, though? If I count 10 meters, and then figure that that is, by definition, 10,000 millimeters, do I have to count to 10,000 to know that it exists?
You can use shortcuts to arrive at a large number, but ultimately the sense of any number, large or small, lies in the fact that it can be counted.
Irrational numbers cannot be counted.
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