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More Chemistry experience required urgently.

 
 
Wilso
 
Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 05:22 am
I know the results for reactions between acids and bases, acids and metals, acids and carbonates, but metals and bases, I'm having trouble finding. I can work out the equation so long as I know the products of the reaction. So does anyone know the products for a reaction between Aluminium and Sodium Hydroxide in solution?
Need this one pretty quickly.
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satt fs
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 05:59 am
I am not familiar with chemistry. The following is a link found in google search.

http://www.pc.chemie.uni-siegen.de/pci/versuche/english/v44-10.html
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 04:45 pm
Sorry wilso, never took a chem class in my life.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2003 11:11 am
Man. That's a much more useful and timely answer than what I just pm'd you, wilso.
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KevinCarlson
 
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Reply Mon 21 Apr, 2003 12:30 am
A vigorous exothermic reaction ensues, releasing Hydrogen gas and heating the solution to boiling, if enough Al is present. Think crystal Drano! (Yep, just read the ingredients on the label)

The Sodium Aluminate reaction product rapidly decomposes to Aluminum Hydroxide and Sodium Hydroxide, so you can continue to add Al and water indefinitely. When ignited, the Hydrogen flame turns a nice yellow
from the sodium line emissions ...

In case you're wondering, I did this a lot in High school ... Wink
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 21 Apr, 2003 02:25 am
KevinCarlson wrote:


In case you're wondering, I did this a lot in High school ... Wink


Never finished high school myself.
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New Haven
 
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Reply Mon 21 Apr, 2003 06:12 am
Is this an aluminum salt?
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New Haven
 
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Reply Mon 21 Apr, 2003 06:13 am
I took High School chemistry. Then went to college and took 4 years chemistry as undergrduate and 5 years chemistry as graduate student.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Tue 22 Apr, 2003 12:48 am
New Haven wrote:
I took High School chemistry. Then went to college and took 4 years chemistry as undergrduate and 5 years chemistry as graduate student.


Thankyou for telling me that. Very Happy
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New Haven
 
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Reply Tue 22 Apr, 2003 06:08 am
You're welcome.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Tue 22 Apr, 2003 08:21 am
yep, that's a lot of that there chemistry...
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 22 Apr, 2003 10:35 am
very chemical indeed
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Wilso
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 02:23 am
New Haven wrote:
You're welcome.


You may not think so when I start asking questions. Laughing
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 02:29 pm
At 3 am ?
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patiodog
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 03:08 pm
Hmmmmm, so new haven must be in the central time zone...
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 03:12 pm
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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neil
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2003 11:21 am
Likely Keven Carlson is correct about sodium aluminate. I ran out of sodium hydroxide and it stopped making hydrogen with surplus aluminum and surplus water. The CRC handbook lists sodium metaaluminate NaAlO2 white amorphous powder that melts at 1800 degree c It is soluable in 20 degree c water and very soluable in hot water. Likely very stable, but some times we are surprised. There may be an intermediate product without meta in the it's name. Why hydrogen is released baffles me as does producing ballanced equasions. The handbook shows two different chemicals called aluminum hydroxide Al(OH)3 and AlO(OH) which decomposes to water and aluminum oxide Al2O3
2AlO(OH) ---2Al2O3 +HOH+O2 balances but apparently is not reality! I give up. None of the chemicals envolved fit the usual definition of a salt. Neil
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benedict1
 
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Reply Mon 11 Oct, 2004 05:01 pm
One caution--don't try this in a closed vessel! You could blow your head off.

Former Chemistry Professor.
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raprap
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2004 11:27 am
It's a McGuyver Bomb

Draino and aluminum powder, and if done with a compaction of diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate it could be a cap for a weapon of mass destruction.

The reactions going on are;

2 Al + 6 H2O ---> 2 Al(OH)3 + 3 H2
Al(OH)3 + NaOH ---> Na+ + [Al(OH)4]-

I don't recommend this, but if you do and don't want pyrotechniques use very dilute sodium hydroxide, use a open vessel in a ventilated area because hydrogen gas is amazingly flammable.

Rap
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