@farmerman,
We do DIY, I'm not very good at it.
My father was a bloody idiot when younger and decided to play a rugby match after receiving an injury and been told by his doctor to stop.
He suffered devastating injuries and started woodworking as part of his treatment. He's done a few sideboards and the like, and they look quite good.
We don't get on, he was never there when I was a kid, and always took the other person's side in any dispute I had. As a consequence I don't like anything he likes, Yorkshire, cricket, rugby and woodwork.
The only music we can agree on is Frank Sinatra.