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The banlieue

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2005 03:16 am
From the frontpages of two French papers:

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goodfielder
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2005 03:23 am
Le Brixton :wink:
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Radical Edward
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2005 05:56 pm
Francis wrote:
I hope we will survive some "minister of interior" that lits this "social fire" and will not elect him to a higher place..

Well said! :wink:
However, I'm afraid we'll do the same error than the citizens of another country you all know very well, who elected (and re-elected) a... well... I should stop here and let you imagine the ending of my sentence! :wink:
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 5 Nov, 2005 12:38 am
The unrests have now spread to Rouen, Lille, Nice, Marseille and Toulouse.


I really hope that «L'image de Sarkozy craque de partout» .... at least his "image"!
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Radical Edward
 
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Reply Sat 5 Nov, 2005 03:19 am
I think he's already lost the elections now...
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 5 Nov, 2005 07:12 am
I think, one - if not THE - biggest mistakes he made (only re these actual riots, their would some others, I suppose), was to abandon the idea and institution of the "police urbaine de proximité".

Now, the police isn't the friend and aide from the neighbourhood but the enemy from the hated government.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 5 Nov, 2005 10:22 am
Good point, Walter.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 6 Nov, 2005 03:01 am
Quote:
An outcast generation

Analyst Hugues Lagrange says that young men have been driven to violence because they have no hope


Sunday November 6, 2005
The Observer


The spread of riots from Clichy-sous-Bois to other housing estates of the Ile de France and several provincial towns has opened a window into the disaffection of France's poor and multi-ethnic areas. It only took a spark for a conflagration to rip through these deprived suburban estates.
Confrontations with the police and burning cars recall smaller urban riots over 25 years. But it is important not to confuse actions by youths from poor, largely immigrant neighbourhoods with ordinary delinquency. These riots show evidence of social protest.

In one group of five youths questioned about the riots, three had left school at 15 or 16 with no qualifications and against the wishes and knowledge of their family. Another was an absentee father, while the last had a criminal record for abusing the police and handling stolen goods. None envisaged any employment beyond a job at McDonald's. They hang around the tower-blocks of the estates with their friends.
And it was precisely on such young men that news of the death of two boys from Clichy, killed while hiding from police, had the most impact. Whether or not it is true that the boys were actually being chased by police, it was a reflection of the appalling relationship between the youth and the police on these estates.

And it is upon these young men that the disdainful words of the Interior Minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, have also had the most impact. For years we have witnessed a sharp increase in offences and rebellion against the police - and the police have behaved as if they have personal scores to settle.

Indeed, evidence of abuse of power has increased at such an alarming rate that a priority must be a policy that not only addresses the underlying the concerns of this young population but institutions like the police.

That said, the situation is changing. Criminals bent on looting and destruction have joined the youths of these neighbourhoods and made the most of the confusion to steal, burn shops and even torch a school.

If such attacks are not brought under control, the population of these poor neighbourhoods, initially supportive of the 'kids' in their confrontation with the police, will turn against all rioters. That would again give the upper hand to heavy-handed repression.

Because the rapid spread of these clashes illustrates a wider problem: the places most severely affected are neighbourhoods which, for the past 20 to 30 years have suffered the highest levels of unemployment among the least educated.

France is committed to a concept of citizenship that ignores both cultural origin and religious orientation, so it has been difficult for the country to recognise that it has been fragmented by segregation. The estates are not places of lawlessness, but where, due to the social segregation, all social tensions have become exacerbated.

Far more than their parents, the youths of these estates feel misunderstood and hated. Those who are educated or have money have escaped, resulting in an overwhelming sense in the communities that those who remain have failed.

Contrary to widespread belief that public services have deserted these suburbs, the reality is that the desertion has come for the most part from the sections of population that have qualifications and a stable job.

It has been left to community associations, largely Muslim, to be the only effective social engines. Without a public policy that addresses these youth and their families with understanding and respect for their identity, we will not overcome a fracture as much cultural and political as it is social.

· Hugues Lagrange is one of France's leading experts on teenage criminality
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Diane
 
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Reply Sun 6 Nov, 2005 10:45 am
What a shame that conservatives have important positions of power in France. The police can become a wecome part of the neighborhood or perceived as the enemy who will resort to violence as a result of their own racism.

These riots, throughout the world, always have striking similarities. Huge unemployment rates, feelings of alienation, racism and an administration which tries to ignore the growing unrest, hoping someone else will have to deal with it. The Watts riots come to mind, with poverty and police too ready to use brute force to quell any uprising.

If France is prepared to start programs to integrate children from the banlieue, the government must spend enough money to give it time to work; there will be hope, but it takes time and consistency.

Too often, governments find something else to spend that money on, something that is more visibly useful to middle class neighborhoods like highway improvement, landscaping, new sport arenas (the usual pork barrel perks). The fight never ends for those who want to affect responsible and permanent change.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 6 Nov, 2005 12:51 pm
A writer I've been following wrote this in today's Washington Post -
(source for rest of article below)

Rage of French Youth Is a Fight for Recognition
Spreading Rampage in Country's Slums Is Rooted in Alienation and Abiding Government Neglect


By Molly Moore
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, November 6, 2005; Page A01


LE BLANC-MESNIL, France, Nov. 5 -- Mohammed Rezzoug, caretaker of the municipal gymnasium and soccer field, knows far more about the youths hurling firebombs and torching cars on the streets of this Paris suburb than do the police officers and French intelligence agents struggling to nail the culprits.

He can identify most of the perpetrators. So can almost everyone else in the neighborhoods that have been attacked.
A man walks past the charred remains of cars in Suresnes, west of Paris. Youths have torched 900 vehicles and a dozen schools, police stations and youth centers across France. (By Jacques Brinon -- Associated Press)
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French Endure Unabated Rioting
French youths rampaging through the country's slums are children of African, Arab immigrants.

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"They're my kids," said Rezzoug, a garrulous 45-year-old with thinning black hair and skin the color of a walnut.

While French politicians say the violence now circling and even entering the capital of France and spreading to towns across the country is the work of organized criminal gangs, the residents of Le Blanc-Mesnil know better. Many of the rioters grew up playing soccer on Rezzoug's field. They are the children of baggage handlers at nearby Charles de Gaulle International Airport and cleaners at the local schools.

"It's not a political revolution or a Muslim revolution," said Rezzoug. "There's a lot of rage. Through this burning, they're saying, 'I exist, I'm here.' "

Such a dramatic demand for recognition underscores the chasm between the fastest growing segment of France's population and the staid political hierarchy that has been inept at responding to societal shifts. The youths rampaging through France's poorest neighborhoods are the French-born children of African and Arab immigrants, the most neglected of the country's citizens. A large percentage are members of the Muslim community that accounts for about 10 percent of France's 60 million people.

One of Rezzoug's "kids" -- the countless youths who use the sports facilities he oversees -- is a husky, French-born 18-year-old whose parents moved here from Ivory Coast. At 3 p.m. on Saturday, he'd just awakened and ventured back onto the streets after a night of setting cars ablaze.

"We want to change the government," he said, a black baseball cap pulled low over large, chocolate-brown eyes and an ebony face. "There's no way of getting their attention. The only way to communicate is by burning."

Like other youths interviewed about their involvement in the violence of the last 10 days, he spoke on the condition he not be identified for fear the police would arrest him.

But he and others described the nightly rampages without fear, surrounded by groups of younger boys who listened with rapt attention. A few yards away, older residents of the neighborhood, many with gray hair, passed out notices appealing for an end to the violence.

A man with wire-rimmed glasses handed one of the sheets to the black-capped youth. He accepted the paper, glanced at it and smiled respectfully at his elder. The boy then carefully folded it in half and continued the conversation about how the nightly targets are selected.



SOURCE FOR REST OF ARTICLE
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 9 Nov, 2005 06:46 pm
I posted a good article, if fitted out with over-dramatic headline, in the hateful thread on the subject of the riots: A tram journey through France's heart of darkness
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 9 Nov, 2005 06:50 pm
Ah, I'd not seen that thread.
Thanks.
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