Suicide persuasive presentation

The most logical, very brief statement is: Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Of course the person contemplating suicide probably would not respond to anything logical or rational so this little goodie probably won't be very helpful.

Re: Suicide persuasive presentation
"The idea of suicide is a very conforting one, helpinhg us to keep on living" - Nietzsche.

good one, val!

Nietzsche said God is dead...

God said..Nietzsche is dead lol

I think you look for a logical answer to an illogical problem. THe number one cause of suicide is depression - despression is an emotive response that does not respond well to logic.

Which is why you can't talk a person out of suicide who is serious.

TTF

okay how about ways to prevent suicide? prevention programs and steps?..etc?

Find more effective treatments for depression, and teach people that what they are experiencing is largely a biological illness which can be treated.

I can see what Nietzche means (I think) - it is a comfort to know that if life gets bad I don't have to carry on suffering.

Nietzsche also said that it is cruel to take a man's life, and it is more cruel to take away his death.
I would say that if you can talk a person out of committing suicide, he should not have committed suicide. But some suicides may be very reasonable actions; we must not view the matter in terms of absolutes.

Most suicide attempts are just a plea for sympathy. The majority are staged and never really intended to be carried out. I say, if someone wants to take their life who am I to stop them? It's their life after all.

I agree, Roverroad. To force a person to live against his will is as "immoral" as aborting a potential life. I do believe that some suicides should be prevented and some abortions should be performed. Life is complex requiring careful thought. The most important thing to realize is that very often suicides and abortions are none of our business.

Vonderjohn, a teen suicide help line is fine and perhaps trying to get a suicidal teen to consider the thoughts and feelings of loved ones might be persuasive. Teenagers still have very little ability to take the time to think rationally. I have read that many people who have tried suicde unsuccessfully have been grateful that thier attempt failed. Maybe that would be fairly effective for a teenager.

When it comes to an adult contemplating suicide, JLN and Roverroad have it right, as far as I'm concerned.

What would make a huge difference would be a humane health care system in this country that provided decent mental health care and treatment.

Yes, if we were sincere in trying to prevent suicide, we would pay the price for preventing the reasons people want to die.

vonderjohn,

I can think of very few reasons why youth suicide should be acceptable, and they are particularly vulnerable.

I think if you can find happy successful people in late 20's or 30's who will admit to contemplating or attempting suicide in their youth to talk about the "what if" .....it might help give kids perspective.

Another thing you can do is to find free 24hour counselling services and do what you can to increase awareness of them.

(In Australia we have "Kids Help Line" ....kids can talk anonymously about anything - I've worked with them a little, and preventing youth suicide is a major part of what they do)

ooops I missed this page.

Daine seems to have covered a lot of my ground already!

Thank you big time guys. Very nice views from each of you. Yep..life is complex...but after all it is how YOU make out of it

Eorl, no problem with reiterating some of the things I said. Teenagers are a whole different breed because of their lack of experience and the fact that their brains haven't completely developed. For adults, I feel very strongly that the choice of life and death is a personal, private decision that should be respected.

Good luck, vonderjohn.