Today, it is humans who are the asteroid

Seized in Singapore

That's appalling.

I think it is wonderful. Human beings care enough about elephants to pass laws against the ivory trade and to arrest the minority people who break them.

The vast majority of human beings support the protection of elephants, condemn the action of poachers and are willing to invest to protect them.

Your hatred of humanity is unfounded, you are hating the entire human race for the actions of a few.

This outrage porn is titilating.... but it doesn't reflect on the human race as a whole.

My 17 year old cat still hasn't figured out mirrors.

you ar the only person here who can tract so much meaning from two words of outrage over an illegal act

He's a bloviator of the first order.

Congratulations Farmerman.

You have stopped thinking critically and you are making personal attacks on anyone who dissents from the ideological narrative. You have been accepted by Izzy and Edgar and Hightor. It looks like you have been fully embraced by the clique.

I am sure this piling on ritual must feel satisfying.

Good for you, it must feel good to belong. It still isn't my thing.

I calls em as I sees em. Your attack at gb was based on the fact that she was horrified at seeing all the dead elephants .
You are, apparently, unable to maintain conflicting thoughts in your head at the same time.

I wasn't attacking gb. I was criticizing Edgar for using the elephants to push an false narrative. I was ignoring GlitterBag (who was just giving the Edgar the reaction he wanted).

This ideological narrative of this thread is about how horrible human beings are. This image is emotionally manipulative... he is posting outrageous images to support his politics.

I think my criticism is fair. This whole thread is pushing an ideological narrative. I am questioning it.

In the past, you really did seem more open to questioning the ideological narrative. I don't know what happened.

yet you aimed at her.

You have settled that e.b. is posting a false narrative yet his posted op eds and articles are spot on IMHO. His picture of the elephant ivory (despite all these anti poaching laws), was postd in the NYT yesterday
WRT Climate
Where is the Manhattan Projct for GW???

The evidence is in, I believe its incontrovertible , time to get yer head outta the sand (BTW I posted that, it was just a cartoon but you didnt criticize me --EB presented some really deep thoughts that youve criticized him for posting an oped)

As far as GW I too say " HELL YEH!! when we gonna get over this fiscally led glacial entrenchment and get down to real work. do we need a good revolution!! ??Your pollyanish beliefs I find kinda weak wristed.

Of course you were attacking me. Every stinking time I make a comment you twist yourself into a pretzel to concoct the worst possible meaning in an attempt to piss me off. Here's how this works, MAX, I worked with and supervised military and civilian personnel for 32 years. In other words, you are an amateur when its comes to this type of drama. Ok, in a few more other words, I don't care even a teeny tiny crap what you think about me, or if you like me or what you think about any other member on this forum. You constantly go after Edgar, you don't like his views.....so the hell what....and then you present your notion of 'This ideological narrative of this thread is about how horrible human beings are. This image is emotionally manipulative... he is posting outrageous images to support his politics. ((How pompous can you possibly be))

(Here's a suggestion, get over yourself)

Max says "I think my criticism is fair. This whole thread is pushing an ideological narrative. I am questioning it"

I say: bottom line is this is utter bullshit, you don't like Edgar and you never pass up an opportunity to derail his threads.....don't you have anything else you can do?)))

You and your crap about cliques, it's tiresome. You may be the biggest c$$baby on the forum.

1. I apologize to you for hitting reply to your post.

2. Your posts are among the nastiest and most self-righteous I have seen. You respond to any disagreement with personal attacks. I won't apologize for saying that. I will also point out that there are lots of people who share your ideology without your level of incivility.

3. I don't believe I have ever attacked you personally unless you have attacked first. You might not understand what a personal attack is.

- Disagreeing with you is not is a personal attack.
- Criticizing one of your posts is not a personal attack.
- Calling someone "pompous" or a "crybaby" is a personal attack.

3. For someone who "doesn't care a tiny bit..." you type an awful lot about me.

I am challenging a political ideology, I am not attacking you personally. You can ignore me if you want.

Get stuffed. The only only person who believes your malarky is you. Now I will put you back on ignore.

When Philip Wylie wrote about Jesus, probably in Generation of Vipers, but it could be An Essay on Morals - I forget - he said that he views the message Jesus presented, Love One Another, Turn the Other Cheek, and so forth, that it presents an archetype representing an evolutionary step for humankind. It moved in on the old law (Eye For an Eye thinking). So, today, minds are divided and one should eventually outlive the other. Right now, Jesus must be on the ropes.

Thank you Glitterbag! This is an excellent example of a personal attack.

I don't know why you ever took me off of ignore. If you can't handle when someone disagrees with you... that's what the ignore button is there for.

This is a pet peeve of mine. If you are going to put someone on ignore, just do it.

Announcing that you are putting someone on ignore isn't classy or effective.

Bottom line here max is, you do make attacks. Repeatedly. Admittedly, many are subtle, does not negate the fact that you are.
You want to make a change? If you believe that you're being unfairly targeted (or maybe even fairly targeted), choose to ignore what offends. Stop going on and on about it. Life is too short for all that ranting and raving about things which don't make a smidgen of alteration to the regular world.

Then off course, going through this thread alone, you have claimed a few folks have attacked you. Is it possible you are in some way (mentally) stimulated by this?

Oh well, have a good night/day.

Yeah, but announcing it will keep you from wondering why they are not responding to you anymore.

Personally, I don't use the ignore button much. Used it 3 times and 2 are off of it now and the third disappeared years ago.

Using the ignore takes away from reading the posts and maybe even responding.

I have had Max on and off ignore several times. I finally concluded it's not worth it. Look at this thread. Once again he has made it all about himself and diverting energy away from the topic.