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what are the conditions to be fullfilled?

 
 
brahmin
 
Reply Wed 18 May, 2005 11:27 am
for a movement to be considered a religion?


is the hippie-movement a religion. if not, then why?

then again, why is christianity or buddhism a religion? why arn't they a movement ?
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Marquis de Carabas
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2005 05:52 pm
Re: what are the conditions to be fullfilled?
brahmin wrote:
why is christianity or buddhism a religion?


Because people call it one.

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why aren't they a movement?


Because people don't call it one.

... I think you'll find my answers more profound than they look if you think about it.
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Etruscia
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 08:30 am
Well usually a religion comprises of 6 things:

1. Origin
2. A founder
3. History
4. Cult
5. Creed
6. Code

which i can elaborate on, but only if you ask.

A movvement does not have a history, nor does it most likely have a creed or cult. Most religions are called religions because they have these elements and because the founder had some sort of encounter with the sacred.
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 08:43 am
If an 'idealogy' can be rationally explained, it is a movement; if it can not, it is a religion.

[the difference between knowledge and faith is thought]
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brahmin
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 03:25 pm
Etruscia wrote:
Well usually a religion comprises of 6 things:

1. Origin
2. A founder
3. History
4. Cult
5. Creed
6. Code

which i can elaborate on, but only if you ask.

A movvement does not have a history, nor does it most likely have a creed or cult. Most religions are called religions because they have these elements and because the founder had some sort of encounter with the sacred.



i know more or less what those 6 mean - but i'll still ask. please elaborate on them.


a movement that stays long enough will get a history - another 30 yeats and nazism will be 100+ years old.

a movement can acquire cult ststus. david koresh and marshall applewhite's "movements'

if by creed you meant credo, then movements can have that too.



there's a religion that has no founder, but is more like this forum - with various members chipping in. and none of them have had any encounter with the sacred. so is that religion still a religion?

is it important for all 6 crieteria to be fullfulled?



the number of followers of the hippie movement far outnumber the current (alive) folowers of zorastrianism and b'ahai.


why isnt hippy-ism a religion?
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brahmin
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 03:35 pm
BoGoWo wrote:
If an 'idealogy' can be rationally explained, it is a movement; if it can not, it is a religion.

[the difference between knowledge and faith is thought]



communism and nazism better be rationally explain-able !!!

meanwhile every religion better not be - else they'd be rendered "movements"
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sunlover
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jun, 2005 05:17 pm
Religions don't necessarily start out as such. Someone encountered a miracle and began telling others about it, starting classes in their home, the classes becoming so large a building is rented, then a special building is built, another, another, and another.

Then, someone can start a church for no reason at all. Why not? A bunch of hippies may simply want to express themselves.
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