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Let's keep Bill Barr's sacrifice in the news

 
 
Reply Sat 18 May, 2019 05:38 pm
Poor Bill Barr was supposed to be a respected AG, but he sacrificed himself for a con who cares noting for him. Too many have taken the same road, and they paid dearly with their reputation and good name. SAD.
 
georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 18 May, 2019 06:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Barr likely knows a good deal more than you or I about what will be in the forthcoming Justice Dept. IG report on the origins of the Trump investigation. He has already assigned a Justice Dept. Prosecutor for an investigation of the same events, likely based on material the IG has developed, and finally, convened and sworn in a Grand Jury for it.

He is a former AG and likely knows well what he is doing ( certainly a lot better than the hapless Loretta Lynch who met with Bill Clinton in her aircraft on the Tarmac of the Phoenix airport. Both described the meeting as unplanned, but neither took the trouble to explain why they went so far from their planned routes for a "fuel stop" on aircraft which could easily make the planned trip unrefuelled. All this happened two days before Comey's unprecedented press conference announcing that Hillary Clinton was cleared of all wrongdoing in the e mail investigation.


The available evidence suggests that Barr already knows he is on firm ground for what he is doing, and that several former Obama era Intelligence officials are already getting visibly nervous and trying to cover their tracks.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 18 May, 2019 09:53 pm
@georgeob1,
I'll let the polls speak for themselves on Donald Trump, and why Barr is a loser. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/ FYI, Trump is a racist, liar, scammer, and cheated on all his wives. Prove me wrong?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 18 May, 2019 09:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
This speaks for itself.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/18/joe_scarborough_barr_will_never_get_his_reputation_back_bizarre_that_presidents_pick_their_own_attorney_general.html
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 19 May, 2019 01:15 am
@georgeob1,
Ahem, Richard M. Nixon, G.Gordon Liddy, John Ehrlichman, Jeb Magruder, John Mitchell, John Dean, E.Howard Hunt, James McCord, Alfred C. Baldwin III, Virgilio Gonzalez, Bernard Barker, Eugenio Martinez, Frank Sturgis, Hugh Sloan, Maurice Stans.....sometimes referred to as "Watergate", now lets push on to Iran-Contra: Casper Weinberger, Robert McFarlane, Elliot Abrams, Duane Clarridge, Clair George , Alan Fiers, John Poindexter, (my personal favorite slimeball) Oliver North........and many (career) others in both scandals that had to hire lawyers because they got caught up in the political appointees goat ropes bullshit.

Now we have Bill Barr, Lindsey Graham, and a ton of other ambitious toadies who think they can survive abetting the amoral narcissist in the White House because they believe that once they achieve packing the courts they will be able to remove gay marriage, abortion rights, outlaw birth control, and drag us back to pre-civil wars days when it was okay to buy and sell human beings. I hope it will still be okay for our little girls to learn to read and write. But then again, in conservative republican nirvana, proper women will be well cared for by dutiful husbands until the husbands tire of them and acquire younger wives because men are the wage-earners. Hallelujah
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 19 May, 2019 04:43 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Poor Bill Barr was supposed to be a respected AG,

And that is exactly what he is.


cicerone imposter wrote:
but he sacrificed himself for a con who cares noting for him.

No such sacrifice has occurred.


cicerone imposter wrote:
Too many have taken the same road, and they paid dearly with their reputation and good name. SAD.

Have you considered getting treatment for your TDS?
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 19 May, 2019 07:39 am
@glitterbag,
Having a bad day ??

You appear to be conflating a host of old grudges, new resentments and distorted views of political events that involve many serious elements which you ignore, and which you report selectively. Moreover, you appear to have as your only unifying idea for them the discomforts that resulted from them for otherwise complacent bureaucrats and time servers, with no reference to the issues involved, benefits that resulted or the voluntary actions and responsibilities of those functionaries themselves.

Your rather childish presumption that actions you don't favor (but which many others do) limiting abortion and reinforcing the traditional status of marriage, and families will necessarily recreate human slavery is silly and a bit contemptible. (No one I'm aware of is suggesting limits on birth control: that is a straw man of your own creation.)

MacFarlane North and Poindexter were all good Naval Academy guys. Indeed Poindexter's younger brother, Bill, is a classmate - he was an early Rickover pick who went into submarines, but got out and joined Baltimore Gas & Electric, later rising to President and Chairman. Hid older brother's "total Information Awareness" has, as you likely know, since become, more or less, a fact. We did say of Ollie that 'he wouldn't float head down', but he was a creative good guy who, together with his attorney, made fools of the self righteous senators out to do a politically motivated hatchet job on him (and who later went on to try to destroy the CIA). I know Elliot Abrams - he's a dedicated, intelligent guy who did more for the country than any of the sleazy politicians who attacked him ( and very likely went on to discomfort a bunch of folks in the intelligence community).

Trump is not "packing the courts". He is merely appointing judges to posts as vacancies arise, and doing so with his own view of needed policy in mind - just as have done all his predecessors - your hysteria notwithstanding.

The new Democrat firebrands in Congress (Reps. Cortez & Omar have truly fantastic, proposals to limit our freedoms and alter our tradition of freedom. The latter wears a headscarf in Congress and advocates elements of Shari Law for her community in Minneapolis, perhaps also including unilateral divorce by husbands and limits on the freedom of women. It's odd that you didn't include that.

Unfortunately, you didn't address at all the unfolding investigations of the origins of the two year assault on Trump likely by an administration that couldn't accept the threat to, and later defeat of, their appointed candidate, and who used a host of apparently willing bureaucrats in government to overreach our FISA laws, and coopt an all-too-willing Intelligence community in a now failed two - year smear campaign.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 May, 2019 02:20 pm
@georgeob1,
George, You also have blinders on, and I mean that in a kind way. Trump is a racist, liar, scammer and con. His racism is open for everybody to see. His border wall is only a symptom of how sick a human being he is. He separated children from their parents without keeping track. That is inhuman in every way possible in any democracy. He's a tyrant who thinks he was elected as king of this country. He denigrates our justice system, and admires Putin. Trump's racism: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html. His border wall has been determined to be useless to control illegal immigrants from our country, but racists love it! More importantly, his no tolerance regulation was harmful to both children and parents. https://familiesusa.org/product/family-separation-harmful-children’s-health. Trump's pathological lies: https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2019/01/17/why-trump-lies-and-why-you-should-care/1GY6VJ9wB12dYvzpPfGPeL/story.html George, You're not only have a bad day, your outlook on this president is ass backwards.
Isn't it enough that Trump is a racist, a liar, cheated on all his wives, and failed to pay his workers enough for you?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 May, 2019 02:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
http://fortune.com/2016/10/08/donald-trump-taxes-contractors/ From bostonglobe.com: The fact that President Trump lies multiple times a day has become inescapably obvious to all but his most blinkered supporters. In that group of hard loyalists, his inveterate lying doesn’t merit direct refutation, just proper appreciation. Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway introduced us to “alternative facts,” which imply that the president does not see the utility of participating in our truth when his “gut” is much more reliably Donald-friendly. Rather, he operates alongside or above our truth through his own elusive discernment, always confidently doubling down. We, the benighted, are mired in a universe defined by science, history, and direct observation that clearly can no longer be trusted, since it is offered via “the enemy of the people” or “fake media” who, when challenging the president, deserve derision and dismissal.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 19 May, 2019 08:23 pm
@georgeob1,
Love the hate Muslims nonsense and trying to picture them as deep threat to our way of life.

Like Trump they do not read history so they have no idea that Muslims had been part of the US even before we was a nation an some of them served under George Washington during our war for independent,

Quote:


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/13/hillary-clinton/clinton-sys-muslims-have-been-america-george-washi/

Our ruling

Clinton said, "We've had Muslims in America since George Washington."

History scholars, studies and information from the Library of Congress say Muslims have been in the United States for hundreds of years, certainly dating back to Washington. Though Muslims were brought to America as slaves from Africa, experts believe many were not able to freely practice their religion. The Founding Fathers eventually outlined freedom of religion, among other rights.

We rate Clinton’s statement True.

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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 20 May, 2019 11:26 am
@cicerone imposter,
Um...? How does opening a random thread on a web forum on the margins of the global internet actually help keep Bill Barr "in the news[?]"

The internet doesn't really work that way.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 May, 2019 02:24 pm
@tsarstepan,
It keeps Barr in the news, because his support of Trump is news that seemed implausible just one month ago.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 May, 2019 02:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 20 May, 2019 02:51 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
It keeps Barr in the news, because his support of Trump is news that seemed implausible just one month ago.

Implausible that Barr would actually fulfill his Constitutional role and serve the President???

I've always found that plausible.

I don't think that your posts on a2k are actually doing anything to keep Mr. Barr in the news.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2019 06:44 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:
It keeps Barr in the news, because his support of Trump is news that seemed implausible just one month ago.

Implausible that Barr would actually fulfill his Constitutional role and serve the President???

I've always found that plausible.

I don't think that your posts on a2k are actually doing anything to keep Mr. Barr in the news.

The United States Attorney General is the head of the US Department of Justice. He IS NOT Trump's personal attorney. His first obligation is to the US and to follow the Constitution. Not bend or break the Constitution in order to save Trump's ass from criminal prosecution.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2019 06:49 am
@tsarstepan,
That is incorrect. As part of the executive branch, his only job is to do exactly what the President orders him to do.
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