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Persecution in Medina?
Were the Quraish the
First to Declare War?

What the Apologists Want You to Believe
DTT claims that the Quraish "declared war" on the Muslims at Medina prior to the Battle of Badr, the implication being that this was the first declaration and act of warfare between the two parties.

What They Offer as Proof
A hadith from Sahih Bukhari narrates the episode of a Medinan leader visiting his friend at Mecca. The Battle of Badr is referenced near the end of this hadith as follows:

So when the infidels started to proceed for Badr (Battle) and declared war (against the Muslims)...


What They Leave Out and Why They are Wrong
The events leading up to the Battle of Badr are soberly recorded elsewhere by the historians. Nowhere do they say that the Quraish "declared war" on the Muslims, just that they mounted up to protect a caravan that was under attack.

In fact, there are two hadith verses from Sahih Bukhari concerning this incident. In the other telling: "When the day of Badr came, Abu Jahl called the people to war, saying 'Go and protect your caravan'." Clearly this is consistent with the historical account, and simply means that the people were being roused to combat by the very clear and present threat posed by Muhammad.

Keep in mind, that this was well after Muhammad begun to raid Quraish caravans and kill the drivers. DTT would call that a declaration of war if the shoe were on the other foot. It was also after the second Aqaba, in which Muslims really did declare war on the Quraish, and ally themselves with a foreign entity.

Even in the verse used by DTT, it is revealed the Muhammad is plotting to kill the Quraish. This also includes Umaiya, the "intimate friend" of the Muslim telling him that that he is doomed. While DTT claims (fact-free) that Umaiya "never stops persecuting" the Muslims, the very verse they quote proves that he was protecting Muslim life and - by his reaction - was surprised to learn that Muhammad was planning war and plotting assassination.

How does this make anything better?

Islamists Teach And Influence Young American Muslims

One such organization is the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), which, among other pursuits, organizes annual "Education Forums" all over the country. Now in their 20th year and drawing hundreds of American Muslim educators with each occurrence, this ISNA educational conference claims to integrate Islamic teachings with social justice activism, working with Muslim educators who teach the next generation of American Muslims.


But at its core, ISNA is an Islamist organization with deep ties to overseas terror networks. In the infamous 2007 Holy Land Foundation (HLF) terrorist financing case, the U.S. Department of Justice named ISNA an "unindicted co-conspirator" — naming the group as one of a number of "entities who are and/or were members of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood." Accordingly, ISNA's conferences — replete with extreme speakers and exclusionary ideology — facilitate the tendentious education of Muslim American youth by narrowly defining "authentic Islamic studies curricul[a]" and the "Muslim American Narrative" according to ISNA's Islamist ideals.

You can't disprove hatred and fear

1. Coldjoint is using the fact that there are religious extremists

2. One of Coldjoint's links states that there is a big difference between Muslim terrorism and any other type of terrorism.

3. Coldjoint is exploiting the fact that religious texts written thousands of years ago contain violent imagery.

4. At the core of Coldjoint's bigotry is the idea that

1. I am on this thread to defend Americans.

2. You have consistently refused to condemn the Neo-Nazis

Find those posts where I refused or just stop lying. That means prove what you said or do not say it again.

But lets clear the slate and try again. I would like you to..

I condemn every act of terror by anyone, that simple.

I don't believe you.

I would like you to type, on record, "I condemn the shootings by White Supremacists as terrorism.". You post before implied that you don't consider violence by White Supremacists as terrorism... this would be an important step for you.

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
Muslim Americans: No Signs of Growth in Alienation or Support for Extremism

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
Muslim Publics Share Concerns about Extremist Groups

al-Arabiya: 36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html

Pew Research (2010): 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
86% of Jordanian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
30% of Indonesian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
76% of Pakistanis support death the penalty for leaving Islam
51% of Nigerian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
Muslim Publics Divided on Hamas and Hezbollah

Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
Zogby Poll: Most Americans Want Strengths and Weaknesses of Darwinism Taught In Schools

83% of Pakistanis support stoning adulterers
78% of Pakistanis support killing apostates
Pakistan: New Poll Shows 78 Percent of Pakistanis Support Death Penalty for Leaving Islam | Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.)

Coldjoint is still refusing to denounce the violent rhetoric in Charlottesville,

Quran (4:101) - "And when you (Muslims) travel in the land, there is no sin on you if you shorten your Salat (prayer) if you fear that the disbelievers may attack you, verily, the disbelievers are ever unto you open enemies."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

vast majority of American Muslims who denounce any violence

You’ll Be SHOCKED By How Many American Muslims WANT Sharia Law!!!

More than half (51%) of U.S. Muslims polled also believe either that they should have the choice of American or shariah courts, or that they should have their own tribunals to apply shariah. Only 39% of those polled said that Muslims in the U.S. should be subject to American courts.

Even more troubling, is the fact that nearly a quarter of the Muslims polled believed that, “It is legitimate to use violence to punish those who give offense to Islam by, for example, portraying the prophet Mohammed.”

Why are you posting links from a White Supremacist group?

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