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Tue 3 May, 2005 12:02 pm
Let us consider politics in terms of the two types of beer. It would be perfectly logical to proclaim that all beer is bad. But it would be idiotic to proclaim, for example, that lager is evil while ale is morally sound. It would be similarly illogical to proclaim ale evil and lager good.
Let us now apply that logic to the two systems of totalitarian government jointly responsible for killing off 100 million or so innocent people in the 20th century. It is perfectly logical to argue that all totalitarianism is evil. But it's silly to argue that Nazism is good and Marxism evil -- or vice versa.
What do you guys think about that statement? Is this just typical liberal hypocrism saying why the conservatives are so bad. Can this point even be argued? Whats your opinion
I'm not sure if it's right wing bashing (if you mean bashing right-wingers.) Seems to be more about you can't say Marxism is good but then say Nazism is bad. As in, since it's pretty much axiomatic that Nazism is bad, Marxism is bad too.
There's nothing particularly liberal about that. Mostly anti-Marxist, which would be probably more in the conservative realm if anything.
I always thought of marxists as being extreme conservatives and Commies as being the extreme on the liberal side...Maybe im wrong
Re: Bashing the right
No offence discreet, I usually like your posts but I think this one is silly.
No two things which can be differentiated can be identical. Logically if one can diferentiate lager from ale then one is necessarily different from the other.
Equally obviously any difference in morality must be based upon these differences with which we differentiate them, yet it is clear that should one condemn nazism for its anti-semitism one could equally praise marxism for its... I don't know, pretty party symbol or whatever... without any intellectual dissonance.
Ok well we ll change the subject then lol
Is it Offence or offense?
I always said no offense.....
Re: Bashing the right
Discreet wrote:What do you guys think about that statement?
I'm beginning to think that
Discreet has yet to have a thought that has not ended up as a new thread on this forum.
im not sure how to take that
Re: Bashing the right
Discreet
I disagree with that kind of logic. No beer is morally good or bad. Beer has no moral. We have: if you use a beer to what you consider being a morally bad action, it is the action that is bad, not the beer.
About totalitarian government: I think the moral problem is not in the ideas that were in the base of it. The moral problem is in the fact they are totalitarians. Nazi government, communist, theocratic, have one thing in common: they hate individual freedom.
In my opinion, that is the moral problem.
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