United Nations to ban religion?

thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself

the un does so much to protect the heritage of the world - declare the pyramids and the machu pichu and the taj mahal as world heritage monuments and stuff - just so that the heritage of the world is not washed away - so why the hell does it allow the conversion of the last remaining members of any society, like for example the Hopi indians or the Maoris of New Zealand ???

The fact it went nowhere ought to tell you something.

they cant ban religion - but they can ban attempts at its propagation / preaching/ conversion.

Religion isn't the problem, the problem is bigotry

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Religion isn't the problem, the problem is bigotry

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True however, it is also true that religion is a precursor to and the fuel that feeds bigotry and intolerance.

Seriously, though, religions shouldn't make rules and expect people to follow them....

Is this the "bitch fight?" about the Jesus Seminars, or whatever it was. Haven't seen any Jesus Seminars myself, how about you?

Real Life, sorry I haven't answered posts but my computer was ill.

Somewhere back there you answered one of my comments about translation of documents scripted prior to the Crucifixion of Christ about the ancient world that was not included in the eventual "Christian" bible assembled by the Roman Catholic Church. You said material had been translated down through "the centuries."

The material I refer to would an entire "Gnostic" library that was unearthed in 1945, in Nag Hammadi, Egypt. This trove was published in its entirety in 1977. Another discovery, an entire cuneiform library, when the ancient city of Ugrit was unearthed by archeologists in 1929 on the coast of Syria at a place called Ra's Shamra.

Biblical scholars don't exactly come in high number and the translation process is slow and arduous. Actually, according to the last book I read by religious scholars, by Mark H. Gaffney and entitled Gnostic Secrets of the Naassenes, what is found in all this material simply connects all of the great religions together, by revealing what has been removed or changed and what is a fabrication (of the Christian bible).

I have never studied Islam and have no idea what the Quran holds but perhaps I could do just that.

I think this forum is for the most part, political. There's always a new bunch coming in, one leaving, in this religious board. I'm through here, but I think writing this stuff down and arguing over it is helpful to see just what is in our minds.

Real Life, it's not real possible to discuss a book with someone who hasn't read it.

No, certainly the lost gospels were not unknown to the early church as the bible was being formed! How else would these early church officials decide to leave them out unless they did "know" them.
And, they were not lost, but destroyed. Listen to what the author said in a small paragraph at the beginning of his book:

"We are going to examine powerful evidence that the Gnostic element was present in Christianity from the beginning, and was, in fact, the very heart of the teachings of Jesus. We will discover that the Gnostic controversy that developed in the second century C.E.--the issue that obsessed Church leaders such as Irenaeus--occurred not because Christianity became polluted by Gnostic heresy, as the Church argued and still contends, but because the bishops of the fledgling Church so rearranged their priorities in their attempts to consolidate institutional Christianity that they lost contact with their own spiritual (Gnostic) roots."

Actually, some of the books that were not included in the bible were: The books of Thomas, Mary, Philip, the Apocryphon of John, the Apocryphon of James, the Dialogue of the Savior, and the Testimony of Truth, all from the Nag Hammadi Library.

Oh, I'm not going anywhere. I'd just like a rest from "Religion and Spirituality."

I never knew that all religions don't teach their students (after all, they are only teachers) of the indwelling God in all of us, which is the great secret the Church didn't understand. So, what they did was replace the entire concept with "The Church." It is only The Church" that can save us all, right? God, I hope not. The Church has never worked and hasn't changed in 2000 years.

God gave us all innate curiosity.

On the island of Crete they are looking for the next messiah.