Suicide = Murder?

Suicide would help overpopulation on the planet since people are living longer now...And it would eliminate the unmotivated ppl in the world. So just because society deems suicide as being morally wrong should we not allow it. Isn't that taking away a mans right to choose and his personal freedoms. I guess if a man really wants to kill himself he can and if he fails well i guess we ll just give him the death penalty to make it socially acceptable

D, you always crack me up!

That would be pretty hilarious.

Hmmm...whats the penalty for suicide attempt? Death Penalty! LOL!

Doesn't seem right, though, cause then the crimminal would be getting what s/he wanted.
Maybe they should get life in prison or something.

Keep them in a straight jacket so they couldn't try suicide again. And keep the very best medical care around so they'd be sure to live a very long long time.

That would teach them!

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I don't think suicide is murder, though the facts you present would be enough to sway most people. Suicide is really just an extremely selfish act, because whilst your problems are over, other people suffer as a result e.g. your family is poor so how do they cover funeral costs, or your girlfriend is 8 months pregnant, or you jump in front of a bus and the driver and passengers are scarred for life (think of the school kids on the bus), or you gas yourself in your car and now your family have to scrape together enough cash for a new one, or you hang yourself and your family come home to find mommy or daddy suspended above the stairs, or you electrocute yourself and start a house fire which consumes everything you and your family own (far-fetched but its still possible).

Here's a question: if you commit suicide, and your spouse / partner becomes chronically depressed as a result, to the point where they too commit suicide, have you committed murder?

Then they guy would learn to use his feet and 'slip' when he was shaving in the morning.

I think suicide is like dwarnism in that the strong survive. So by allowing it in theory we ll filter out the weaklings and have a better more motivated society. But then again lol this thought just made me laugh. If you let people kill themselves that will affect other people that know the person that kill themselves. So it could be possible that if suicide was accepted people would kill themselves then family members of the victims would kill themselves because they want to be with them or because they have become depressed. So we d all kill ourselves in the end.

P.S. whenever i thought about suicide i always found it weird that at any moment of my life i could kill myself. Its such a power being able to tell yourself when you will die. We re all so afraid of death that we want to know when we are going to die. So why not just promise ourselves now that at the age of 87 we ll go skydiving without a parachute.That way when i hit the ground at 200mph ill be half way to hell

Good points M18.

Well one thing I always thought is: if one is going to commit suicide, at least make it look like an accident!

(for example, I'd swim out into a lake or ocean or something, then it would look like an accidental drowning, or something like that.

Then, at least your selfish act wouldn't scar others so bad (though it would still cause pain).

Hmmm...to answer your other question: If your suicide drove someone esle to suicide, I don't think that you murdered them, but it does seem that you contributed to their death. So, perhaps you could be tried as an accessory to murder. Then you'd have to be brought back to life so you could be properly punished.

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or you could be condemned to the fires of hell and have pineapples and milk cartons shoved up your ass every half-hour

hmmm...pineapples sound kinda bad, but milk cartons?

I'd almost welcome some milk cartons in hell. ???

huh
milk cartoins are boxy and pointy, that would hurt if it went sideways.

oh, okay.

Dam, your hell doesn't sound that bad.

Is that the worst torture there would be?

Sounds like hell lite.

Not That There Is Anything Wrong With That!

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lets get back on topic. :wink:

(the smileys will ensure your co-operation)

I don't know if you've heard the song 'stan' by Eminem, but he drives his car over a bridge with his pregnant girlfriend in the trunk, and that's murder suicide. But if his girl wanted to die, would this be euthanasia?

hell
thats not the worst punishment, but it still not gonna be fun

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Seems like that would be euthanasia-suicide.

But the girlfriend would need to be terminally ill, I think. If she just wanted to die (but was healthy) I don't think that would qualify as euthanasia.

I guess if they were both terminally ill and he drove the car off the bridge, that would be double-euthanasia.

Then again, some say Life is a Terminal Disease.

So, perhaps its double-euthanasia in any case. They've both got this Terminal Illness called Life. Born to Die.

Here's another question:

If you bully someone and harass them to the point where they kill themselves are you guilty of murder, or are you an accessory who deserves the pineapple and milk-carton treatment?

and another question:

If a girl is pregnant with a child who will be born with a severe disability, e.g. agent-orange induced mutations, and she is refused an abortion, if she kills herself, is she murdering or euthanasing her child?

Accessory.

Deserve worse than pineapple & milk carton.

Pineapple & milk carton should be for suicide (which doesn't seem quite as bad).

But causing someone's elses death? Gotta be stronger medicine than pineapple & milk carton.

Heck, there are some posters on here who would enjoy that!

Yeah, but they are probably satanists whod ance naked around fires, so we send them to heaven (bad for them) and make them with a bunch of iehova's witness door knockers. :wink:

Thats a tough one.

Are you Discreet?

What do you think, Discreet?

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Well, first we'd have to decide a simpler case: If a pregnant woman (pregnant with healthy child) kills herself, is she murdering the baby?

Makz quit posting back to back just say what you wanna say in one post. Spam man.

Your question about is it smurder if you want to kill yourself and drive a car with your pregnant wife of a bridge? Can be answered with a similar thought

Is it murder if you are speeding in your sports car with your wife and 2 kids when suddenly someone swerves in front of you and you are going to fast to stop so you swerve and hit the median killing everyone in the car. Is that murder. Or even worse if one of your kids had a black friend in the car is that a hate crime?

Or another example you are commanding your plattoon of 20 men and tell them to move in so that reinforcements can land on the beach. Your decision kills all your men. Are you guilty of murder. Im not sure what my opinion is but societies opinion is that even though you are in charge of someones life such as a babies because you are in charge you can choose to kill that baby ie abortion